Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P1661

Alexa rank (P1661) edit

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Don't need to delete Midleading (talk) 04:25, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alexa is retired and the current data is outdated, incomplete, and inconsistent. —GZWDer (talk) 17:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Values with a point in time qualifier should be kept for historical purposes. Not sure what to do about entries with no date qualifier. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:45, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How about the date when the property was added or check Internet Archive (Q461)? Kethyga (talk) 03:49, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What's the actual goal here? Add the last known Alexa rank? Add the yearly ranks? Monthly? Daily? Just some random date? @Kethyga:--Trade (talk) 01:31, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just the time when the property was added to a Wikidata item if Internet Archive (Q461) has a backup. Kethyga (talk) 01:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ArthurPSmith: We may change it to "Last Alexa rank" but it will open the door to scam and misleading because you don't have the main reference (the website shut down) and we can't ensure the rank is right or not--Ibrahim.ID (talk) 13:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alexa is closed in May 2022, there is no useful use of outdated data and not even for historical purposes. --Ibrahim.ID (talk) 13:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alexa.com is now closed and there is no point in keeping past records.--Mugenpman (talk) 04:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Vigorous Oppose Historical data with an associated time is still useful, and a low Alexa rank is a very useful indication that a website was of significant interest at the time. However, entries without "point in time" should be deleted, as they are now meaningless. It may be possible to use the Internet Archive to retrieve historical data, and to use a bot to popuate these with new, dated, values. A moment's searching finds extensive backups of at least the top 50, see https://web.archive.org/web/20190228235959/https://www.alexa.com/topsites , and there is also data accessible for the top 500 if we look deeper; see, for example, https://web.archive.org/web/20160819105430/http:/www.alexa.com/topsites . This data has also been used to drive web crawling activities by the IA, who may also have archived data that can be mined for this. See, for example, https://archive.org/details/alexacrawls?tab=about The Anome (talk) 11:08, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with opinion of The Anome. --Gymnicus (talk) 11:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A lot of Alexa rankings are very clearly able to be dated and confirmed using the Internet Archive, and damn near every single one of those is useful. Telaneo (User talk page) 05:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per The Anome. Retired website is not a valid reason to remove the property. In this case, we should preserve the historical data. Ranks can still be used by looking at the archives (example). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 00:33, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but remove any non-dated values and deprecate any new additions that are not clearly referenced to IA. Vicarage (talk) 06:17, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep dated values only.

— The Erinaceous One 🦔 07:07, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep dated rankings for historical value. Desoda (talk) 18:02, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per The Anome (values with dates are useful, values without dates are often not, even if Alexa was still active rankings without dates would be of marginal use as the ranking varies over time) Gunnar Larsson (talk) 07:20, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per The Anome. We are not only documenting the present, but also the past.--Jklamo (talk) 16:54, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Pre-may 2022 data, if any, can still be extracted from Internet Archive using https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/domain_name. Point in time and archive date are roughly coincidental with one another. - Coagulans (talk) 20:38, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose A value by itself is a meaningless data-point. To create information in the sense of knowledge-management, there is a load of additional information required, that is not available at any data point, e.g. total amount of clicks in that period, number of clicks in that language, geographical spread, etc. Therefore, the singled out number even with a date remains non-qualifiable and therefore basically useless. Yotwen (talk) 07:13, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note there is a point in time (P585) as a mandatory qualifier. Jklamo (talk) 17:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is useful historical data. --Yirba (talk) 23:23, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep dated values, per The Anome. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs ] 18:07, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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