Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P3571
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- No consensus to delete — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:20, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Shoftim BeIsrael judge ID (P3751): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion)
Shoftim.org.il is defunct. —עלי (talk) 00:50, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @עלי: being defunct is not alone a reason to delete. also you went through and removed all the links to this property which makes assessing whether we should keep it impossible. please undo that. BrokenSegue (talk) 01:28, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: I will not do something as useless as that. Sorry. You may examine the Wikidata property example (P1855) of this property, so it's not impossible. When a property's sole purpose is linking to a website, I think the website being defunct is sufficient reason to delete the property. It was a sufficient reason to delete its template at hewiki. Having said that, tipping you for a useless property is enough. Accept or reject the request, I am not going to spend even one more second of my time regarding this property. Thanks. עלי (talk) 01:59, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @עלי: wow... that was needlessly hostile. Deleting all usages of a property and then listing it for deletion is obviously the wrong order to do something in. It's like blanking an item and then listing it for deletion. What hewiki does has no bearing here. There is potential value in external identifier for defunct websites. BrokenSegue (talk) 03:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: No, there isn't. At least not when we are talking about a private website, who holds a private nonofficial database. The website died and its identifiers died with him. Please elucidate what could be the potential value, regarding this specific property. Sorry for my previous impatient reply. עלי (talk) 03:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @עלי: often websites are well archived by some third party e.g. http://web.archive.org In those cases these identifiers can still be used by looking at the archives. Additionally if a website's identifiers are used elsewhere on the Internet then having these identifiers remains valuable for joining between databases. BrokenSegue (talk) 04:11, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: No, there isn't. At least not when we are talking about a private website, who holds a private nonofficial database. The website died and its identifiers died with him. Please elucidate what could be the potential value, regarding this specific property. Sorry for my previous impatient reply. עלי (talk) 03:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @עלי: wow... that was needlessly hostile. Deleting all usages of a property and then listing it for deletion is obviously the wrong order to do something in. It's like blanking an item and then listing it for deletion. What hewiki does has no bearing here. There is potential value in external identifier for defunct websites. BrokenSegue (talk) 03:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: I will not do something as useless as that. Sorry. You may examine the Wikidata property example (P1855) of this property, so it's not impossible. When a property's sole purpose is linking to a website, I think the website being defunct is sufficient reason to delete the property. It was a sufficient reason to delete its template at hewiki. Having said that, tipping you for a useless property is enough. Accept or reject the request, I am not going to spend even one more second of my time regarding this property. Thanks. עלי (talk) 01:59, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment Some pages are archived at Internet Archive, e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20180307051719/http://www.shoftim.org.il/page.asp?id=104. --Stevenliuyi (talk) 04:09, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fine. I will not pursue this request any further. Wasted enough of my time, that's wikidata's maintenance administrators concern anyways. Thanks. עלי (talk) 04:16, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
