Wikidata:Property proposal/ANSI/NISO standard ID

ANSI/NISO standard ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Descriptionidentifier for the number of the ANSI/NISO standard which normalizes the object
RepresentsANSI/NISO standard (Q104634626)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domaintechnical standard (Q317623)
Allowed valuesZ39[ascii:\x2E][1-9]\d*[-–][0-2][0-9][0-9][0-9]
Example 1Criteria for Indexes (Q104635113): ANSI/NISO standard for indexing and information retrievalZ39.4-20XX
Example 2Z39.50 (Q135847): application layer communications protocol for searching and retrieving information from a database over a TCP/IP computer networkZ39.50-2003
Example 3Serial Item and Contribution Identifier (Q3479782): no descriptionZ39.56
Example 4Chinese Character Code for Information Interchange (Q1073697): character encoding standardZ39.64
Example 5digital object identifier (Q25670): ISO standard unique string identifier for a digital objectZ39.84
Example 6Dublin Core Metadata Element Set (Q624610): standardized set of metadata elementsZ39.85-2012
Example 7Z39.87 (Q1961037): Data Dictionary - Technical Metadata for Digital Still ImagesZ39.87-2006
Example 8OpenURL (Q311386): standardized format for linking to information resourcesZ39.88-2004
Example 9Journal Article Tag Suite (Q17060731): XML format used to describe scientific literature published onlineZ39.96-2019
Planned useenriching items around standards
Number of IDs in sourcea bit over 100 when excluding temporal and version modifiers like Z39.96-2019 or Z39.88-2004 [R2010], otherwise several hundreds - NISO NOTE: there are a bit over 100 current or withdrawn NISO standards. the version modifiers indicate previous versions. The accurate version name should include the current version year, if this is excluded, the latest version is referenced.
Expected completenessgenerally complete
See alsoISO standard (P503)

Motivation edit

National Information Standards Organization (Q1508447) are maintaining a number of information standards that are relevant in the United States as well as internationally. Wikidata has very patchy coverage in this area, so I thought proposing a dedicated property is a good way to get things started into a more systematic direction. However, I am not clear yet how best to handle

  • the modifiers like Z39.96-2019 or Z39.88-2004 [R2010], which refer to documents about the standards that essentially define a particular version (or even draft) of the standard
 => NISO Response: NISO standards follow the following designation strucutre: 
    <Z39.> indicates a US National standard published by NISO (Committee Z39) - 
    <XXX> the number of the standard, which is assigned sequentially as new standards are developed.  Not all standards are published and some standards are withdrawn.  Numbers are not reused.
    <(-YYYY)> indicates the year of approval and are therefore critical to understanding of which version is being referenced. If the qualifier is missing, the last version is understood to be the referent.  

A number of NISO standards have been withdrawn and therefore a no longer available.

  • consequently, the range of allowed values or the necessity for qualifiers
 => NISO Response: The year qualifier is critical.  The [R20XX] is the year of reaffirmation, which is not required.
  • the lack of landing pages for these standards on the NISO website, which seems document-centric rather than built around the standards, which means that formatted URLs like https://www.niso.org/explore/search?keys=Z39.96-2019 would mostly work in practice but not in a consistent fashion across the website
 => NISO Response: We have identified this problem and will work to correct it. Please do not link to the NISO Search Engine: The structure of the URLS should be " https://www.niso.org/publications/Z39_<STANDARD_NUMBER>_<APPROVAL_YEAR> " although we acknowledge that it will take some time to clean up this structure (as of 2/2/21).  All NISO Standards are also assigned DOIs, which are also available for linking.  We will be producing a canonical landing page with linked data information later this spring for each standard (as well as those that have been withdrawn).


-- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC) -- Edited by Todd Carpenter, NISO 23:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

  • Question. Not sure quite how to phrase this, but does ANSI/NISO embellish or innovate conceptually at all, such that there might not be a one-to-one correspondence between the ANSI/NISO identifier and the item to which it corresponds? For example, the result you linked for digital object identifier (Q25670) suggests that ANSI/NISO simply creates a unique identifier that corresponds directly to the DOI standard. But ISO standards (as far as I know) are sui generis, so that the ISO standard for "Unique digital document identification" would include DOIs but doesn't correspond one-to-one with it. Where do ANSI/NISO identifiers fit in here? AleatoryPonderings (talk) 18:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support These are important standards, and deserve their own identifier. On AleatoryPonderings question, I believe Z39.84 is a formalization of the DOI standard as implemented by the organizations involved, so the identifier points to a document that specifies what a DOI is. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  => Some NISO standards are advanced as ISO standards.  These standards may change as part of the ISO standardization process and, if approved by ISO, receive their own ISO designation.  For example ANSI/NISO Z39.84 (now withdrawn by NISO) is currently published as ISO 26324:2012 Information and documentation — Digital object identifier system.