Wikidata:Property proposal/Adelsvapen ID

Swedish noble family website

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Adelsvapen ID (P7931) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Swedish noble family on Adelsvapen-Wiki
Represents	Adelsvapen-Wiki (Q77944274)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed values	\S{2,128}
Example 1	Cronman noble family (Q61881525) → Cronman_nr_748
Example 2	Hoffman family (Q70326138) → Hoffman_nr_1487
Example 3	Von Rohr Scandinavian noble family (Q830048) → Von_Rohr_nr_807
Example 4	Tre Rosor family (Q2450753) → Tre_rosor
Example 5	Vellingk (Q2512539) → Vellingk_nr_72
Example 6	Adlercreutz Swedish noble family 125 (Q4683297) → Adlercreutz_nr_125
Example 7	Adlercreutz Swedish noble family 331 (Q4683296) → Adlercreutz_nr_331
Example 8	Aminoff family (Q20973577) → Aminoff_nr_456
Example 9	Makeléer family (Q61881718) → Makeléer_nr_513
Example 10	Maclean family (Q61881892) → Maclean_nr_306
Example 11	Von Knorring Swedish noble family 177 (Q81349919) → Von_Knorring_nr_177
Example 12	Von Köhler family (Q4219077) → Von_Köhler_nr_2085
Example 13	von Walter family (Q10720245) → Von_Walter_nr_1127
Example 14	Göthenstierna family (Q63892754) → Göthenstierna_nr_1501
Example 15	Eka family (Q16155869) → Ekaätten
Source	https://www.adelsvapen.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAlla+sidor&from=&to=&namespace=0&hideredirects=1
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	3453 ref 1 24 February 2020
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.adelsvapen.com/genealogi/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Because of the German noble family of the same name, and multiple branches of the same family raised to nobility, it will have to be done by hand
See also	genealogics.org person ID (P1819), Roglo person ID (P7929)
Type constraint – subclass of	human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295)
Single-value constraint	no
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

Website containing information on >1,000 Swedish noble families based on Svenska adelns Ättar-taflor utgifna by Gabriel Anrep (1821-1907) published in 1850. It was the republished in 1925 by Gustaf Magnus Elgenstierna (1871-1948) with correction and additions, and was recently migrated online in a Wiki format. We have some entries for the noble families already in Wikidata. Many of the noble families in Sweden came from Germany and sometimes we have a separate entry for the Swedish noble family, and we have a separate entry for the German noble family here at Wikidata. Sometimes they are combined in Wikipedia and we may have to split them. When introduced into the House of Nobility in Sweden they are awarded a new coat-of-arms that is a variation on their original German one. Sometimes as with Adlercreutz (see above), there are multiple branches of the same family awarded honors and again we may have to split entries. Some families are also members of the Finnish House of Nobility and they are marked as a "Scandinavian noble family" (see: Von Rohr above). Please feel free to modify my proposal. --RAN (talk) 03:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support - Salgo60 (talk) 23:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
•  Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2020 (UTC).
•  Support --Trade (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
• @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): I tried to create this property but an automatic check failed: no description has been provided. Please fix your proposal and your property will be created shortly. This is an automated message but do not hesitate to ping me if you need any help. − Pintoch (talk) 09:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

  @Pintoch: Fixed! --RAN (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

  No notification without signature. And see below too (after i have already completed several things on your proposal), please RAN. —Eihel (talk) 16:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

  Signature and notification on the same time, otherwise, it doesn't work. Changing the signature doesn't change from the content of the message. —Eihel (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Strong oppose bad domain (or put in type constraint - subclass of field). Could you put the number of catalog entries in the right place (number of ids) with a reference (source), please. —Eihel (talk) 04:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

ChristianKl (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC) Melderick (talk) 12:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Richard Arthur Norton Jklamo (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson Gap9551 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC) Jrm03063 (talk) 15:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Salgo60 (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC) Egbe Eugene (talk) Eugene233 (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Dcflyer (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2018 (UTC) Gamaliel (talk) 13:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 11:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Theklan (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC) SM5POR (talk) 20:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC) Pmt (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC) CarlJohanSveningsson (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC) Ayack (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC) EthanRobertLee (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC) -- Darwin ^Ahoy! 18:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Germartin1 (talk) 03:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC) Skim (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC) El Dubs (talk) 21:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC) CAFLibrarian (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC) Jheald (talk) 18:50, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy and @Trade, Pintoch:  Done Adelsvapen ID (P7931) —Eihel (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)