Wikidata:Property proposal/Alfred P. Sloan Foundation Grant ID

Alfred P. Sloan Foundation Grant ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: Alfred P. Sloan Foundation grant ID (P7513) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifiers of grants in the database of the Sloan Foundation
Represents	Alfred P. Sloan Foundation (Q1200258)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	research grant (Q54875403)
Allowed values	\d+
Example 1	OurResearch (Q16996711) (project) → ImpactStory (Q64728194) (grant) → 6718
Example 2	Robustifying Scholia (Q63437117) (project) → To support development on Scholia, a software tool to facilitate the exploration and curation of the research literature (Q64711209) (grant) → 8961
Example 3	WikiCite (Q30035267) (project) → Alfred P. Sloan grant to Wikimedia Foundation (2018) (Q64760168) (grant) → 8518
Source	https://sloan.org/grants-database
Formatter URL	https://sloan.org/grant-detail/$1

Motivation edit

The Alfred P. Sloan foundation is a funder that financially supports open source projects with grants. Their grant database has close to 2000 grants at this moment. --Egon Willighagen (talk) 03:45, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support David (talk) 06:30, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support I hope to do more to connect grants with projects with institutions with people. I am on the Scholia team which received funding for this organization to develop the WikiCite project including an exploration of the extent to which we can model grants here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:09, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dhx1 (talk) 15:11, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 15:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 14:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support.--Vulp here 16:46, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
While I support this property, I note that Daniel Mietchen is currently enquirying about the license of the Sloan data. There is also the further questions of (continuous) project vs. one-time grant, e.g., NumFocus is an organization, while I suppose the suggested identifier is for one-time grants. The ontology around organization/continuous project and one-time grant is still not quite resolved in Wikidata, if I understand correctly. People may want to correct me here. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 18:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Will leave a note here when I hear back. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 00:11, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I got some initial response but this does not clarify whether creating this Wikidata property is the way to go forward. More discussion to follow — will come back here when there is anything sharable. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:20, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All, I'm making a few updates, to align the proposal with the DINGO standard, developed in at the Wikibase meeting in Berlin last year, see https://dcodings.github.io/DINGO/ which I should have done in the first place. Please hold off approval of the proposal just yet, thank. --Egon Willighagen (talk) 17:45, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluerasberry, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Dhx1, Sic19, Vulphere, Daniel Mietchen: I have updated the description (Domain + Examples) according to the DINGO specification (it may need further tweaks), and I will like to invite you to reevaluate the proposal. @Vladimir_Alexiev, Considering.Different.Routes: your feedback is also most appreciated! --Egon Willighagen (talk) 15:08, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It looks ok to me. The link from project to grant is via source of income (P2770) ?? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:45, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, per DINGO specification: https://dcodings.github.io/DINGO/#wd.Project One loose end I am not sure about: DINGO specifies has characteristic (P1552) but I found that this properties doesn't take a value but points to another entity. I have flagged it: https://github.com/dcodings/DINGO/issues/3 --Egon Willighagen (talk) 07:27, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Ivanhercaz (Talk) 12:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Cwf97 (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2019 (EST)
@Daniel Mietchen: It looks like we were waiting on some feedback from you; everybody else seems happy with this property. Do you have any objection to the creation of this property now? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:46, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Daniel Mietchen: Do you have any update? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 11:43, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Ysangkok (talk) 01:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Despite the modeling difficulties, we should go forward and link to/import grants databases, we might correct the modeling later when we have more of suhc data in WD! --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:17, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support, after which we could look to include others: MacArthur, MIT Solve, + Knight Foundations, and Grants Online in the UK. Sj (talk) 21:31, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluerasberry, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, ChristianKl, Daniel Mietchen, YULdigitalpreservation, ArthurPSmith: @Vladimir Alexiev, Vulphere, Cwf97, Sj, Ivanhercaz, Fnielsen: @Egon Willighagen, Dhx1, Ysangkok: Done: Alfred P. Sloan Foundation grant ID (P7513). − Pintoch (talk) 22:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]