Wikidata:Property proposal/Cantonese romanisation

Cantonese romanisation edit

Jyutping edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Done: Jyutping transliteration (P9311) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Jyutping transliteration of Cantonese words
Represents	Jyutping (Q649913)
Data type	String
Domain	lexeme; CJK chars item possibly
Allowed values	[A-PS-UWYZa-ps-uwyz1-6-]+
Example 1	嘅 (L413864) → ge3
Example 2	嗰头/嗰頭 (L413911) → go2 tau4
Example 3	書 (Q54553156) → syu1
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
See also	pinyin transliteration (P1721)

Yale romanization of Cantonese edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Done: Yale romanization (P9313) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Yale romanisation of Cantonese words
Represents	Yale romanization of Cantonese (Q17055654)
Data type	String
Domain	lexeme; CJK chars item possibly
Example 1	嘅 (L413864) → ge
Example 2	嗰头/嗰頭 (L413911) → gó tàuh
Example 3	書 (Q54553156) → syū
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
See also	pinyin transliteration (P1721)

Cantonese Pinyin edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Done: Cantonese Pinyin (P9317) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Cantonese Pinyin transliteration of Cantonese words
Represents	Cantonese Pinyin (Q2670744)
Data type	String
Domain	lexeme; CJK chars item possibly
Allowed values	[ABD-PS-UWYZabd-ps-uwyz1-9-]+
Example 1	嘅 (L413864) → ge3
Example 2	嗰头/嗰頭 (L413911) → go2 tau4
Example 3	書 (Q54553156) → sy1
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
See also	pinyin transliteration (P1721)

Cantonese Transliteration Scheme transliteration edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Done: Cantonese Transliteration Scheme transliteration (P9323) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Cantonese Transliteration Scheme transliteration of Cantonese words
Represents	Cantonese Transliteration Scheme (Q8421908)
Data type	String
Domain	lexeme; CJK chars item possibly
Example 1	嘅 (L413864) → gé3
Example 2	嗰头/嗰頭 (L413911) → go2 teo4
Example 3	書 (Q54553156) → xu1
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
See also	pinyin transliteration (P1721)

Motivation edit

There have been 2 unsuccessful proposals related to Jyutping (Wikidata:Property_proposal/Jyutping_(2)). The rationale is similar to those in the previous proposal. Previously suggested solutions appear to be dysfunctional. This one includes more Cantonese transliteration systems, addressing some concerns mentioned in previous proposals. These 4 are chosen as they are the only systems (besides IPA) used in enwiktionary's zh-pron template for Standard Cantonese pronunciation. H78c67c (talk) 18:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support I was surprised to find we didn't have these when I was trying to add romanisations for Cantonese. - Nikki (talk) 22:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support why not? Mahir256 (talk) 01:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, just like pinyin transliteration (P1721) as raised in its property proposal, it is not purely transliteration. There are tones and they spell differently. Sun8908 💬 03:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support Jyutping as the most commonly used standard for phonetic transcription of Hong Kong Cantonese, Support all other three as other well-recognised standards. Opposition in previous proposals missed the point about the purpose of Cantonese romanisation and its intended role in the Lexeme space. The lack of a devoted Jyutping property has been stifling the development of Cantonese Lexemes and it's about time we fixed it. Deryck Chan (talk) 17:12, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@H78c67c, Nikki, Mahir256, Sun8908, Deryck Chan:

Done 4 properties have been created. Pamputt (talk) 20:29, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]