Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
Property proposal: | Generic | Authority control | Person | Organization |
Creative work | Place | Sports | Sister projects | |
Transportation | Natural science | Computing | Lexeme |
See also
edit- Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending – properties which have been approved but which are on hold waiting for the appropriate datatype to be made available
- Wikidata:Properties for deletion – proposals for the deletion of properties
- Wikidata:External identifiers – statements to add when creating properties for external IDs
- Wikidata:Lexicographical data – information and discussion about lexicographic data on Wikidata
This page is for the proposal of new properties.
Before proposing a property
- Search if the property already exists.
- Search if the property has already been proposed.
- Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
- Select the right datatype for the property.
- Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
- Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.
Creating the property
- Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
- Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
- See property creation policy.
On this page, old discussions are archived. An overview of all archives can be found at this page's archive index. The current archive is located at 2024/09. |
Cultural heritage
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Cultural heritage, Wikidata:WikiProject Intangible Cultural Heritage
- Other related projects: Category:Cultural heritage WikiProjects
National Historical Museums of Sweden object ID
editDescription | authority identification for an object in the collections of the National Historical Museums of Sweden |
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Data type | External identifier |
Allowed values | [0-9A-Z]{8}-[0-9A-Z]{4}-[0-9A-Z]{4}-[0-9A-Z]{4}-[0-9A-Z]{12} |
Example 1 | Streiff (Q10681657) → https://samlingar.shm.se/object/A4B754D2-5CB6-4FA1-997A-970250E32044 |
Example 2 | Mosjömadonnan (Q10589526) → https://samlingar.shm.se/object/7C505995-EBF5-4106-BBEE-17F52BB3EA83 |
Example 3 | Elizabeth Reliquary (Q26253636) → https://samlingar.shm.se/object/8BA2743C-5065-438B-9FAA-D854606DB716 |
Source | https://samlingar.shm.se |
Planned use | Matching and creating items in the collection that are depicted on Wikimedia Commons |
Number of IDs in source | 1 300 000 |
Expected completeness | no label (Q21873886 (always incomplete)) |
Formatter URL | https://samlingar.shm.se/object/$1 |
See also | Nationalmuseum Sweden artwork ID (P2539) |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
editNeeded to be able to matching and creating items on Wikidata that are objects in the collection of NHM and that are depicted in images on Wikimedia Commons, for example. / LinneaKarlberg (talk) 12:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Support Azad Karimi (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support LinneaKarlberg (talk) 13:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Eva L Vedin (talk) 13:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Elinor Rajka (talk) 19:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Azad Karimi (talk) 13:56, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment @LinneaKarlberg:, @Eva L Vedin:, @Elinor Rajka:, @Azad Karimi: coordinating support votes with ones colleagues is not helpful, the property proposal process is in place for a reason. Abbe98 (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, we did not know. LinneaKarlberg (talk) 07:19, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Considering that National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) exists and that other properties from SHM are likely to be proposed in the future(places, events, heritage sites, ect) maybe there should only be one property? As far as I'm aware the UUIDs are unique across the various types and even if that wouldn't be the case one could include the type prefix in the id. Abbe98 (talk) 22:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Abbe98: Sure, that would probably work. Do you have an example of another external identifier that includes several different types so I can check how it works? Is it possible then to change the name and details of P9495? LinneaKarlberg (talk) 07:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Europeana entity (P7704) would be one example. I would imagine migrating/generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) by: 1. updating the formatter URL 2. adding the agent prefix to existing values 3. updating the label/description of the property Abbe98 (talk) 10:08, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Abbe98: Sure, that would probably work. Do you have an example of another external identifier that includes several different types so I can check how it works? Is it possible then to change the name and details of P9495? LinneaKarlberg (talk) 07:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Per the discussion above, I would suggest generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) rather than creating a new property for each type. I cave created a section on the discussion page. Abbe98 (talk) 10:20, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Abbe98 , It would then be necessary to differentiate "agents" from "object". How would you like to do? (incorporate it into the identifier as a general property? or use an external URL formatter?) We can also consider that each property will be dedicated to the type (less errors with dedicated constraints). It would be necessary to recontact those who have already voted, as well as the voters of the other property, to find out if your idea appeals to them, but with more information. I don't see a URL leading directly to the correct page without using the type (with only the UUID). Example:
type:UUID
. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 03:47, 13 April 2022 (UTC)- Hi! I would imagine we would use one of the seven possible prefixes like agent/<UUID> and object/<UUID>. We could also use a generic resolver but there isn't an official one so I think such a solution is less optimal. Abbe98 (talk) 06:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Abbe98: @Eihel: @LinneaKarlberg: We just had a discussion about this with the Wikidata team at the National Historical Museums of Sweden. Our conclusion is that this property should not be created, and Abbe98's solution (using prefixes) is better. This will include us (WMSE is supporting the museum in their Wikidata work) generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) and removing
/person/
from the formatter URL and then adding the person prefix to all the existing uses of the property. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 12:10, 21 April 2022 (UTC)- @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) I have pinged all the people who voted on National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495). I think we should leave it over the weekend at least but then if there are no one oposing this I can migrate it early next week. Abbe98 (talk) 12:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- We at NHM are all on board with this approach instead of several Properties. LinneaKarlberg (talk) 08:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds like an excellent idea. Many thanks Abbe98 . /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 08:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks everyone, I've started re-defining National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) and will migrate the existing items using it. --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 12:19, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds like an excellent idea. Many thanks Abbe98 . /André Costa (WMSE) (talk) 08:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- We at NHM are all on board with this approach instead of several Properties. LinneaKarlberg (talk) 08:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) I have pinged all the people who voted on National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495). I think we should leave it over the weekend at least but then if there are no one oposing this I can migrate it early next week. Abbe98 (talk) 12:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Abbe98: @Eihel: @LinneaKarlberg: We just had a discussion about this with the Wikidata team at the National Historical Museums of Sweden. Our conclusion is that this property should not be created, and Abbe98's solution (using prefixes) is better. This will include us (WMSE is supporting the museum in their Wikidata work) generalizing National Historical Museums of Sweden ID (P9495) and removing
- Hi! I would imagine we would use one of the seven possible prefixes like agent/<UUID> and object/<UUID>. We could also use a generic resolver but there isn't an official one so I think such a solution is less optimal. Abbe98 (talk) 06:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Abbe98 , It would then be necessary to differentiate "agents" from "object". How would you like to do? (incorporate it into the identifier as a general property? or use an external URL formatter?) We can also consider that each property will be dedicated to the type (less errors with dedicated constraints). It would be necessary to recontact those who have already voted, as well as the voters of the other property, to find out if your idea appeals to them, but with more information. I don't see a URL leading directly to the correct page without using the type (with only the UUID). Example:
National Archives of Sweden persistent identifier
editDescription | persistent identifier for objects in the National Archives of Sweden main archival database |
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Represents | National Archives of Sweden (Q1724971) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | archival resource (Q106815942), document (Q49848), work (Q386724) |
Allowed values | Base62-encoded UUID |
Example 1 | No 2. Elbing. (Q111517198) → eYHMeAFOm4sNVmxKK3M5L2 |
Example 2 | No 3. Elbing (Q111517379) → 0zDW3BS0Gw9Haap2yUVspE |
Example 3 | No 4. Danzigk wir es Eltere und newer werck (Q111519390) → zmQwWNi2ag9DQGJxnSVmD0 |
Implied notability | Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320) |
Formatter URL | https://sok.riksarkivet.se/arkiv/$1 |
See also | Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324) |
Applicable "stated in"-value | National Archives of Sweden (Q117288060) |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
editWikidata-objekt med denna egenskapen kan också ha Nationell Arkivdatabas Referenskod (P5324), men den persistenta identifieraren är enklare att använda för att skapa webbsides-URLer och länkad data-URIer. Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige) (talk) 13:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Comment Hi - could you fix your examples to look more like other property proposals (should look like: item → id) ? Also it would be useful to have formatter URL and some of the other template parameters filled out if possible. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:21, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback! This is my first property proposal so I am very unsure of how to do things. I have reformatted the examples, added URL format and a see also reference. Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige) (talk) 08:22, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support Ok, looks good to me now! ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support Jneubert (talk) 05:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment are the above examples also the canonical URIs? Considering that the RA has quite a lot of identifiers, could there be a less generic name/description? "primary database" doesn't say much to the average user. Abbe98 (talk) 21:18, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support, Notified participants of WikiProject Sweden —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:36, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
It has been created as Swedish National Archive agent ID (P9713) se discussion - Salgo60 (talk) 07:43, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Not the same as I understand. This proposal is for objects in archives (maybe even archives or series, though I struggle to come up with a case where they would have a wikidata item). The property you link is for an agent (Swedish: arkivbildare). Belteshassar (talk) 09:15, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Belteshassar, Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige), Abbe98: Dont we make it more complex than needed. Formatter url is the same
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/agent/$1
- My suggestion change the name on Swedish National Archive agent ID (P9713) to be both... I have used (maybe wrongly) both for the "person agent" and the "archive agent"
- 1) List examples nota bene August Strindberg seems to have more person identifiers at the National Archive looks like something that needs to be cleaned at "the National Archive"...
- Having 2 different properties is like if someone should connect with Wikidata and add new properties for every type of instance instance of (P31) Wikidata has... ?
- Also Swedish National Archive reference code (P5324) is used for both persons and archives
- - Salgo60 (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment, I think this would be useful, perhaps also on commons. I’m not sure how many entries in NAD reference individual works, as I understand the purpose of the proposal, and to what degree those works are notable for Wikidata. Perhaps the creator of the proposal could enlighten me. Belteshassar (talk) 09:23, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- pushed the question also to github.com/Riksarkivet/dataplattform - Salgo60 (talk) 13:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment read the thoughts over at the National Archive - Salgo60 (talk) 03:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Writing as the original author of this propopsal, I would like to put this on hold for the moment. I realize that this should probably be the RDF URI rather than just the PID. I have to think this over and if I do end up with wanting the RDF URI, there are issues to clear with the format of this. - Nils Weinander (Riksarkivet Sverige) (talk) 11:26, 28 Mars 2023 (UTC)
- FYI: Nils is working at the Swedish National Archives with this - Salgo60 (talk) 17:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like Nils left Riksarkivet and the whole thing died. I tried to ask about Riksarkivets terms but get odd answers see issue #22 - Salgo60 (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Cinematography
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Movies
- Other relevant projects: Category:Movie WikiProjects
Television
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Movies
Trakt episode ID
editDescription | identifier for a episode in the Trakt.tv database |
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Represents | Trakt.tv (Q84591894) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | television series episode (Q21191270) |
Allowed values | [1-9]\d* |
Example 1 | Ozymandias (Q15015260) → 73541 |
Example 2 | Blink (Q1885659) → 951467 |
Example 3 | Severed Dreams (Q4310395) → 244779 |
Source | https://trakt.tv |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
Formatter URL | https://trakt.tv/episodes/$1 |
Robot and gadget jobs | import uris via IMDb ID (P345), and search [data-episode-id="xxxxxx"] in page source code |
Applicable "stated in"-value | Trakt.tv (Q84591894) |
Motivation
editThe UUID of the episode on Trakt.tv. It can be found in the source code of the page under the value data-episode-id="xxxx", where xxxx is the episode UUID.
Analogy for the TheTVDb episode identifier. pecela – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pecela (talk • contribs) at 03:14, August 27, 2024 (UTC).
Discussion
edit- Support --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 09:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see that Trakt.tv ID (P8013) is generic and covers episodes among a wide range of things. With a broad format URL, why is that property not suitable? I'd rather not have properties for each of the things Trakt stores, though we already have Trakt.tv film ID (P12492). If we need all 3 (or more) IDs, is there a commitment to reorganise the existing structure? Vicarage (talk) 16:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
TV Maze character ID
editDescription | identifier for a character on the TV Maze film database |
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Represents | TV Maze (Q84863617) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | television character (Q15773317) |
Allowed values | ^[1-9]\d*$ |
Example 1 | Cosmo Kramer (Q2916792)→85604 |
Example 2 | Jimmy McNulty (Q6200826)→49349 |
Example 3 | Tyrion Lannister (Q2076759)→15604 |
Example 4 | Saul Goodman (Q7154377)→45535 |
Example 5 | Saul Goodman (Q7154377)→86444 |
Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
Formatter URL | https://www.tvmaze.com/characters/$1/- |
See also | TV Maze series ID (P8600), TV Maze episode ID (P11294), TV Maze season ID (P10669), TV Maze person ID (P11449) |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Film (Q8485793) |
Motivation
editTV Maze is a database of television series for which we already have a number of Wikidata properties for. This may come in handy because ever since IMDb deprecated their character pages there has been a lack of identifiers for television characters.
Unfortunately, there does seem to be some duplication with characters that appear in multiple series (see the Saul Goodman example) but I don't think this is a major problem and it can be dealt with using qualifiers. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 01:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Notified participants of WikiProject Fictional universes. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 14:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support –Shisma (talk) 15:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewis Hulbert, could you please clarify comments by @Shisma? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 20:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- ZI_Jony did not comment. I just supported – Shisma (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well noted. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 14:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- ZI_Jony did not comment. I just supported – Shisma (talk) 11:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewis Hulbert, could you please clarify comments by @Shisma? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 20:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewis Hulbert, Shisma: Done as TV Maze character ID (P12978) Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 19:01, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Anime and manga
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Anime and Manga
Music
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Music
- Other relevant projects: Category:Music WikiProjects
Board game
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Board Games
game designer
editDescription | person(s) who devised and developed this game |
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Represents | game designer (Q3630699) |
Data type | Item |
Template parameter |
|
Domain | game (Q11410) |
Allowed values | instances of human (Q5) or group of humans (Q16334295) |
Example 1 | Codenames (Q25203543) → Vlaada Chvátil (Q1791461) |
Example 2 | The Settlers of Catan (Q17271) → Klaus Teuber (Q61088) |
Example 3 | Dune (Q389078) → Peter Olotka (Q19662251), Jack Kittredge (Q65936417), Bill Eberle (Q65673817) |
Example 4 | Portal (Q274897) → Kim Swift (Q6409464) |
Example 5 | Super Mario Bros. (Q11168) → Shigeru Miyamoto (Q12382), Takashi Tezuka (Q509121) |
Planned use | Replace uses of creator (P170), designed by (P287), developer (P178), author (P50), and discoverer or inventor (P61) with the new property |
Motivation
editEdit: Based on the feedback I have expanded the scope to video games as well. I was hesitant to do this at first because designed by (P287) is already well-established for video games: en:Template:Infobox video game and 2007 video games use it.
5 years have passed since the Property for board and card game creators discussion and we still haven't agreed on how to model relationships between board games and its designers. Currently, there are five competing properties in use – what a mess.
Why I think the existing properties are not sufficient:
- developer (P178) is mostly used for video games. Its values are often companies but board game designers aren't.
- author (P50) should only be used for written works (I assume this one has so many uses because board game designers are called Autoren in German)
- designed by (P287) could be mistaken for graphic designer/illustrator (P110) (especially by German users).
- creator (P170) and discoverer or inventor (P61) are too generic. Labels in other languages are often awkward.
But most importantly: it's not obvious to editors which of the above properties they should choose, resulting in the mess we are in. Dexxor (talk) 12:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editNotified participants of WikiProject Board Games
- Wouldn't it be more practical to turn this into a broader property – "game designer" – that could be used with board games, video games, and maybe even physical games, if there are such cases? I think most of the problems listed above also apply to video games. Currently, designed by (P287) is sometimes used for both the "game scenario ideas" position and the "visuals/illustrations" position. While the examples in this property include Jony Ive with iPhones and a furniture designer - which, to be honest, seems to have nothing to do with game design. And the only other way to fill this position is developer (P178) + video game designer (Q18882335) qualifier. The game designer profession itself seems to be pretty well established to be independently recognized and weighted. Pinging the VG project to see what others think: Notified participants of WikiProject Video games. Solidest (talk) 12:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Either this property should be expanded to a general "game designer", or the game artist (P3080) property can be used for board game art. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 15:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm leaning towards the above option "game designer" instead of the specific one proposed. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 01:52, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Supporting the expanded version. Solidest (talk) 13:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support I like the wider game designer, that should cover most use cases. Ainali (talk) 14:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dexxor, Kirilloparma, Solidest, Wd-Ryan, Ainali: Done: game designer (P12969). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 23:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewis Hulbert: Thanks for creating it, however when you open it, it sticks and just won't open. So far it can only be opened by browsing some diff, am I the only one experiencing this? Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kirilloparma, I'm also getting same issue, please see Wikidata:DEV#Issues with adding statements to a new property. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 02:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, it looks like some kind of bug. My advice for now is to create a ticket in phabricator and temporarily avoid creating properties via the Wikidata interface. I suggest to try using PropertyCreator.js or as I do on a regular basis create properties via QuickStatements (example). I don't know how it would help though, but it's worth a try. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- I tried QuickStatements earlier in the same situation, unfortunately doesn't work well! However, your suggestion is very good, It's looks like Antonin's createprop which was not working for long time. Thanks! Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:38, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, it looks like some kind of bug. My advice for now is to create a ticket in phabricator and temporarily avoid creating properties via the Wikidata interface. I suggest to try using PropertyCreator.js or as I do on a regular basis create properties via QuickStatements (example). I don't know how it would help though, but it's worth a try. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kirilloparma, I'm also getting same issue, please see Wikidata:DEV#Issues with adding statements to a new property. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 02:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lewis Hulbert: Thanks for creating it, however when you open it, it sticks and just won't open. So far it can only be opened by browsing some diff, am I the only one experiencing this? Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Tabletopia game ID
editDescription | identifier for a board game on tabletopia.com |
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Represents | Tabletopia (Q96407561) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | social game (Q17351672) |
Example 1 | Wingspan (Q65784798) → wingspan |
Example 2 | Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → terra-mystica |
Example 3 | Go (Q11413) → go |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Planned use | Mass-import using matching BoardGameGeek IDs |
Number of IDs in source | 2594 |
Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
Formatter URL | https://tabletopia.com/games/$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Board and table games (Q9456907) |
Motivation
editLinking together different databases is one of Wikidata's biggest strengths but board game databases are still underrepresented. Compared to BoardGameGeek, Tabletopia has a simpler UI and offers official rule books that can be downloaded as PDF without login. Dexxor (talk) 21:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editNotified participants of WikiProject Board Games
- Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dexxor, ArthurPSmith: Done as Tabletopia game ID (P12970) Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Board Game Arena ID
editDescription | identifier for a game on boardgamearena.com |
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Represents | Board Game Arena (Q50042959) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | social game (Q17351672) |
Example 1 | Wingspan (Q65784798) → wingspan |
Example 2 | Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → terra-mystica |
Example 3 | 7 Wonders (Q17276) → sevenwonders |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Number of IDs in source | 916 |
Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
Formatter URL | https://boardgamearena.com/gamepanel?game=$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Board and table games (Q9456907) |
Board Game Arena numeric ID
editDescription | numeric identifier for a game on boardgamearena.com. Use as qualifier |
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Data type | External identifier |
Example 1 | Wingspan (Q65784798) → 1635 |
Example 2 | Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → 1118 |
Example 3 | 7 Wonders (Q17276) → 1131 |
Formatter URL | https://boardgamearena.com/gamepanel?id=$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
editBoardgamearena.com provides lots of useful information about a game, has interactive tutorials, and it often links to other databases like myludo.fr, lad.education, tesera.ru, spellenlab.be, nastol.io, jeuxstrategieter.free.fr, and ludopedia.com.br (for which I will also create property proposals). Dexxor (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editNotified participants of WikiProject Board Games
- Comment One could argue that the numeric ID should be the main value and the human-friendly ID should be used as qualifier. But since the numeric IDs are pretty well-hidden (you can find them by searching for
<span style="display:none" id="game_id">
in the HTML source) I would speculate that the human-friendly IDs are actually more stable/permanent. Dexxor (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
BoardGaming.com game ID
editDescription | identifier for a game on BoardGaming.com |
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Represents | BoardGaming.com (Q129740046) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | social game (Q17351672) |
Example 1 | Wingspan (Q65784798) → wingspan |
Example 2 | Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → terra-mystica |
Example 3 | Fiasco (Q3744369) → fiasco |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Planned use | Create Mix'n'match catalog |
Number of IDs in source | 3644 |
Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
Formatter URL | https://boardgaming.com/games/$1 |
URL match pattern | ^https?://boardgaming.com/games/[^/]+/([a-z0-9₂–_-]+) |
See also | BoardGameGeek ID (P2339) |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Board and table games (Q9456907) |
BoardGaming.com numeric game ID
editDescription | numeric identifier for a game on BoardGaming.com. Use as qualifier |
---|---|
Data type | External identifier |
Example 1 | Wingspan (Q65784798) → 65958 |
Example 2 | Terra Mystica (Q17147000) → 32707 |
Example 3 | Fiasco (Q3744369) → 9387 |
Formatter URL | https://boardgaming.com/?p=$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
editThis is probably the biggest contender to BoardGameGeek. It has been around since 2010. Dexxor (talk) 11:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editNotified participants of WikiProject Board Games
- Comment The numeric ID is the Wordpress post ID obtained by searching for
postid
in the HTML source. I would expect that the numeric IDs become obsolete should BoardGaming.com ever switch away from Wordpress. Dexxor (talk) 11:16, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
BoardGameGeek game mechanic ID
editDescription | identifier for a game mechanic on BoardGameGeek |
---|---|
Represents | BoardGameGeek (Q887528) |
Data type | External identifier |
Example 1 | rock–paper–scissors (Q3939644)→2003 |
Example 2 | area majority (Q19618360)→2080 |
Example 3 | bidding (Q2142250)→2012 |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Planned use | possibly useful as an external link on Wikipedia pages that may describe these game mechanics, as well as a way to verify the content of the Wikidata item. |
Number of IDs in source | 192, possibly? The browsing page for IDs has that amount: https://boardgamegeek.com/browse/boardgamemechanic |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
Formatter URL | https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamemechanic/$1 |
See also | BoardGameGeek ID (P2339), BoardGameGeek game publisher ID (P6160), BoardGameGeek family ID (P8675), BoardGameGeek designer ID (P3505) |
Applicable "stated in"-value | BoardGameGeek (Q887528) |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Motivation
editI've seen some items that would fit this identifier recently, and I think it would make sense to have it available alongside the other BoardGameGeek IDs. Outside of Wikidata, I'm also hoping to spruce up the tabletop game space on nowiki, so it would make a nice addition, should I start writing about game mechancis on this other project where we tend to use Wikidata a bit. EdoAug (talk) 00:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editVideo game
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Video games
- Other relevant projects: Category:Video game WikiProjects
Literature
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Books
- Other relevant projects: Category:Book WikiProjects
Scientific literature
editBiblioteka Nauki IDs
editBiblioteka Nauki article ID
editDescription | identifier for an article on bibliotekanauki.pl |
---|---|
Represents | Biblioteka Nauki (Q113016424) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | scholarly article (Q13442814) |
Example 1 | Geometrical interpretation of the sinh-Gordon equation (Q130062139) → 714437 |
Example 2 | General principles of law and taxation (Q117536139) → 2010032 |
Example 3 | Privacy and Transparency in the 4th Space: Implications for Conspiracy Theories (Q114023825) → 31234178 |
Number of IDs in source | 571653 |
Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
Formatter URL | https://bibliotekanauki.pl/articles/$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Biblioteka Nauki journal ID
editDescription | identifier for a journal on bibliotekanauki.pl |
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Data type | External identifier |
Domain | scientific journal (Q5633421) |
Example 1 | Annales Polonici Mathematici (Q9155888) → 1087 |
Example 2 | Review of European and Comparative Law (Q96719000) → 1176 |
Example 3 | Filozofia i Nauka (Q96701581) → 18618 |
Number of IDs in source | 1700 |
Formatter URL | https://bibliotekanauki.pl/journals/$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Biblioteka Nauki book ID
editDescription | identifier for a book on bibliotekanauki.pl |
---|---|
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | book (Q571) |
Example 1 | Aegyptus et Nubia Christiana. The Włodzimierz Godlewski jubilee volume on the occasion of his 70th birthday (Q125753655) → 1046641 |
Example 2 | New media in the social spaces. Strategies of influence (Q130089387) → 2031079 |
Example 3 | Otwarty dostęp (translation) (Q56242287) → 2143725 |
Number of IDs in source | 1900 |
Formatter URL | https://bibliotekanauki.pl/books/$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Biblioteka Nauki publisher ID
editDescription | identifier for a publisher on bibliotekanauki.pl |
---|---|
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | publishing company (Q2085381), higher education institution (Q38723) |
Example 1 | Jacob of Paradyż University of Applied Sciences in Gorzów Wielkopolski (Q30263914) → 370 |
Example 2 | Centralne Laboratorium Kryminalistyczne Policji (Q30261001) → 388 |
Example 3 | Frontiers Media (Q80796) → 1001 |
Number of IDs in source | 1000 |
Formatter URL | https://bibliotekanauki.pl/books/$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
editOpen-access library created in 2021 by University of Warsaw with over 571,000 articles, 1700 journals, 1900 books, and 1000 publishers. Dexxor (talk) 23:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editVideo
editImage
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts
Podcast
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Podcasts
Theatre
editFiction
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Fictional universes, Wikidata:WikiProject Narration
- For projects about specific universes, see: Category:Fiction WikiProjects
health/hit points
editDescription | health or armor points of this video game, board game or role-playing game character |
---|---|
Represents | health (Q668136) |
Data type | Quantity |
Example 1 | Adam Warlock (Q130232493) > 250 |
Example 2 | Infested Girl (Q130232401) > 16 |
Example 3 | Mercy (Q28592386) > 225 |
Example 4 | Sniper (Q128164668) > 90 |
Example 5 | Sniper (Q128164668) > 50 (applies to part > armor (Q130232601)) |
Example 6 | Claude Speed (Q2721597) > 10 |
Example 7 | Claude (Q14805400) > 100 |
Example 8 | Zoey (Q65924442) > 100 |
Example 9 | Creeper (Q13164404) > 20 (applies to work (P10663) > Minecraft (Q49740)) |
Example 10 | Cacodemon (Q108324133) > 400 (applies to work (P10663) > Doom (Q189784)) |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
editWe have no way of modeling this so a property is needed
- Notified participants of WikiProject Fictional universes--Trade (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Notified participants of WikiProject Video games--Trade (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Comment is this really within Wikidata:Scope? You can only look this up from the game data which makes this original research. Also how do you compare this across games? 100 hitpoints might be a lot for one game and not so much for a game where the weapons kill you at first shot. Matthias M. (talk) 21:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- It can also be referenced from wikis about the game. Original research isn't the only option. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Wd-Ryan: Are you referring to Fandom/Wikia wikis and other player-maintained wikis? These are considered unreliable (due to it being user-generated content) on many other Wikimedia projects. Is this "allowed for" on Wikidata? EdoAug (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it makes the statement ineligible for inclusion altogether, but most identifiers can be entered as a reference. These websites, however, do not make the subject of the item notable. Either way, it isn't accurate to say health points wouldn't be found in any other external resource. For example, this random news article I quickly found references hitpoints (Not that this specific one is applicable).
- I'd also be fine with having this data in an existing property if there's a good one. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 23:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- If someone for whatever reason wishes to ban Fandom as a source then this is not the right place to discuss it anyways Trade (talk) 22:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Wd-Ryan: Are you referring to Fandom/Wikia wikis and other player-maintained wikis? These are considered unreliable (due to it being user-generated content) on many other Wikimedia projects. Is this "allowed for" on Wikidata? EdoAug (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Naturally in some games 100 hitpoints will be a lot and in others very little. This is an issue of scaling and balancing and not something that affects the truthness of the statement Trade (talk) 22:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- It can also be referenced from wikis about the game. Original research isn't the only option. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment This could be used on all items of Minecraft mobs. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 22:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment What about using properties such as has characteristic (P1552) (or something similar) and quantity (P1114) for the plethora of (video, board, role-playing) game attributes? A similar property is personality trait of fictional character (P9652). EdoAug (talk) 22:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- How about we just widen the scope to include board and role-playing games? Trade (talk) 22:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Trade: I'm referring to other types of attributes, such as strength, charisma, armour, running speed, mana, agility, dexterity, and the many other traits that characters may have in video games (but also other types of games), as well as health (and damage). Instead of creating bespoke properties for these, why not just have one for "gameplay trait of fictional character or item", or just use one of the aforementioned properties (and qualifier)? EdoAug (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Mechanics such as hit points and damage are largely universal across game genres and (arguable) inherent to most of them. Being able to spend skill points across multiple attributes for your characters is not Trade (talk) 23:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not all usage of other attributes include spending skill points. Health and damage are not static numbers, either – many non-player characters in RPG video games have an ever-changing array of numbers, such as Jaina Proudmoore (Q819585), whose health is different in various expansions of World of Warcraft, as well as spin-off games such as Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone, where her damage and mana (resource) is also relevant.
- I am simply offering an alternative way of portraying these numbers in a way that may include a wider spectrum of similar traits. I don't really think specific properties are necessary, but I'm not too opposed to them either. I think it would be better to have a more open-ended property that would accommodate for multiple types of statistics (including health and damage... and mana, agility, running speed, level, et cetera). EdoAug (talk) 23:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree we need a property with a wider scope, there's going to be plenty of stats that only apply to items from specific games so a general purpose property in the same area as has characteristic (P1552) would likely work best. Taking Pokémon items as an example (I believe we have over 1000 of those at this point) it would be advantageous to be able to provide their base statistics: HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed. Since these stats are quite relevant to gameplay it should be easy to find sources without having to resort to fan wikis. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 02:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you, Lewis. Some kind of "has statistic" property with a number data type and units for each statistic type. (health point, attack point, etc.) -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's something along the lines I meant. EdoAug (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you, Lewis. Some kind of "has statistic" property with a number data type and units for each statistic type. (health point, attack point, etc.) -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree we need a property with a wider scope, there's going to be plenty of stats that only apply to items from specific games so a general purpose property in the same area as has characteristic (P1552) would likely work best. Taking Pokémon items as an example (I believe we have over 1000 of those at this point) it would be advantageous to be able to provide their base statistics: HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed. Since these stats are quite relevant to gameplay it should be easy to find sources without having to resort to fan wikis. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 02:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Mechanics such as hit points and damage are largely universal across game genres and (arguable) inherent to most of them. Being able to spend skill points across multiple attributes for your characters is not Trade (talk) 23:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Trade: I'm referring to other types of attributes, such as strength, charisma, armour, running speed, mana, agility, dexterity, and the many other traits that characters may have in video games (but also other types of games), as well as health (and damage). Instead of creating bespoke properties for these, why not just have one for "gameplay trait of fictional character or item", or just use one of the aforementioned properties (and qualifier)? EdoAug (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- How about we just widen the scope to include board and role-playing games? Trade (talk) 22:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This type of data belongs in a specific fan wiki. The numbers aren't meaningful to non-players. Dexxor (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wikidata is contributed by people active in different topics and have very different goals of contribution, so "not meaningful to non-players" is not a good reason against it. However we does have a Wikia equalvent of Wikidata (Wikibase Cloud), so I have no position for or against the property.--GZWDer (talk) 11:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
damage
editMotivation
editWe have no way of modeling this so a property is needed
- Notified participants of WikiProject Fictional universes--Trade (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Notified participants of WikiProject Video games --Trade (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Comment Where did you source those example values from? Matthias M. (talk) 10:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
magazine capacity
editDescription | magazine capacity or clip size of this firearm or weapon (real or fictional) |
---|---|
Represents | magazine (Q148958) |
Data type | Quantity |
Example 1 | CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 16 |
Example 2 | CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 20 |
Example 3 | CZ 75 Automatic (Q128424715) > 26 |
Example 4 | Desert Eagle Mark XIX (Q128788767) > 9 (ammunition (P739) > .357 Magnum (Q158754)) |
Example 5 | Desert Eagle Mark XIX (Q128788767) > 8 (ammunition (P739) > .44 Magnum (Q94598)) |
Example 6 | Peacekeeper (Q130212252) > 6 |
Example 8 | Orb of Destruction (Q129916278) > 25 |
Example 9 | CZ75-Auto (Q128424479) > 12 |
Example 10 | Minigun (Q124444124) > 200 |
Example 11 | Sniper Rifle (Q124444442) > 1 |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Video games (Q8485882) |
Motivation
editWe have no way of modeling this so a property is needed
My knowledge of real-life firearms is limited so please bear over me if i made any mistakes.
- Notified participants of WikiProject Fictional universes--Trade (talk) 22:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Notified participants of WikiProject Video games--Trade (talk) 22:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editCreative work
edit- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Infoboxes/works
- Software products and brands, see: Wikidata:WikiProject Infoboxes/terms