Wikidata:Property proposal/Deutsche Biographie ID

Deutsche Biographie ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Deutsche Biographie (GND) ID (P7902) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a person in the Deutsche Biographie
Represents	Deutsche Biographie (Q1202222)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item
Example 1	Nicolaus Cusanus (Q61483266) → pnd129070807
Example 2	Georg Christian Urlaub (Q61688133) → pnd137702957
Example 3	Ludwig Kiessling (Q1874660) → sfz40917
Source	https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/
Mix'n'match	1619
Planned use	Adding IDs through Mix'n'match
Formatter URL	http://www.deutsche-biographie.de/$1.html

Motivation

Important German biographical reference site containing the full text of the Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie and the Neue Deutsche Biographie. --Adam Harangozó (talk) 18:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

• See previous requests at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Deutsche_Biographie_person_ID, Wikidata:Property_proposal/Deutsche_Biographie_Identifikator, Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/32#German_Biography_id. I'm neutral on it, but ping @Pigsonthewing, ArthurPSmith, Kolja21, Oursana, JakobVoss, Multichill: @Jura1, ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2, Gymel: from previous proposals.--GZWDer (talk) 07:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Last time I've withdrawn my support but for maintenance work this ID is quite helpful. There will be never a 1:1 match of all IDs. Example:

1. Ludwig Kiessling (Q1874660): GND 125177828 → Deutsche Biographie 125177828 = Statuscode: 500
2. Deutsche Biographie sfz40917 = Kießling, Ludwig

--Kolja21 (talk) 08:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

•  Support. Nomen ad hoc (talk) 16:34, 6 February 2020 (UTC).
• @Adam Harangozó: the samples and the formatter url don't seem to match (pnd is missing). Can you fix this? I think you just need to prepend pnd to the id? Maybe also good to add https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/sfz40917.html as a sample? Multichill (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

@Multichill: I've updated the examples. --Kolja21 (talk) 02:23, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

@Kolja21: Thanks. --Adam Harangozó (talk) 20:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

 Support looks like a valuable resource. The fact that everything seems to be under a CC0 license is an extra plus. Proposed property seems to be quite similar to Biografisch Portaal van Nederland ID (P651), but more extensive information. Multichill (talk) 11:22, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - and note that no reason why this previously-failed proposal has been reopened hes been given. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment Sorry for not checking previous proposals before creating this one. Still, my impression is that it would be useful to have a separate property for Deutsche Biographie as it can't always be generated from GND but is still an important site. And from this property it would be easy to create formatters for linking to ADB and NDB on the site.--Adam Harangozó (talk) 20:08, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment +1. The first proposal was mainly rejected because the IP who made it created chaos on Template:German Biography (Q19886784). This template exits on 15 Wikipedias therefore a property can be useful. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:30, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
• @Adam Harangozó, GZWDer, Kolja21, Nomen ad hoc, Multichill, Pigsonthewing:  Done as Deutsche Biographie (GND) ID (P7902). Thierry Caro (talk) 05:54, 12 February 2020 (UTC)