Wikidata:Property proposal/Dictionary of Occupational Titles Code (fourth edition, revised)

Dictionary of Occupational Titles code (fourth edition, revised)

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Dictionary of Occupational Titles Code (fourth edition, revised) (P8679) (Talk and documentation)

Description	occupation code from the Dictionary of Occupational Titles, fourth edition, revised
Data type	External identifier
Domain	profession (Q28640), occupation (Q13516667)
Allowed values	11 character string in the form of numbers according to this pattern: ###.###-###
Example 1	architect (Q42973) → 001.061-010
Example 2	petroleum engineer (Q21002343) → 010.061-018
Example 3	aquarist (Q60728520) → 449.674-010
Example 4	pharmacist (Q105186) → 074.161-010
Example 5	photojournalist (Q957729) → 143.062-034
Example 6	building manager (Q84312746) → 382.664-010
Example 7	stained-glass artist (Q2205972) → 142.061-054
Example 8	gravedigger (Q537575) → 406.684-010
Example 9	barber (Q107198) → 330.371-010
Example 10	librarian (Q182436) → 100.127-014
Source	https://occupationalinfo.org/ or https://www.dol.gov/agencies/oalj/topics/libraries/LIBDOT
Planned use	will add code to profession and occupation items along with the Dictionary of Occupational Titles ID on a case-by-case basis
Number of IDs in source	unknown
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
See also	Wikidata:Property proposal/Dictionary of Occupational Titles ID (currently in proposal stage) ROME Occupation Code (P867), NOC Occupation Code (P918), SOC Code (2010) (P919), ISCO-88 occupation class (P952), KldB-2010 occupation code (P1021), CNO-11 occupation code (P1022), SBC-2010 occupation code (P1023), SBFI occupation code (P1024), IDEO Job ID (P1043), Portuguese Job Code CPP-2010 (P1052), Statistics Denmarks classification of occupation (DISCO-08) (P1069), ESCO Occupation ID (P4652), ISCO-08 occupation class (P8283)

Motivation

I already proposed an external identifier for Dictionary of Occupational Titles ID, which will link to occupation description in the DOT. In the comments it was suggested that a property for the DOT code also be proposed. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 18:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support --Hannes Röst (talk) 00:55, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
• Maybe it would be good to see how this is different from Wikidata:Property proposal/Dictionary of Occupational Titles ID by having (at least a few) samples for the same occupation.  Oppose having both unless there is some difference beyond formatting. --- Jura 13:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
  • janitor and librarian are examples in both proposals. --- UWashPrincipalCataloger 18:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Good point. The difference seems to be mere formatting and repetition of the initial digits. This proposal seems preferable over the other. --- Jura 08:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
    • The only downside to this proposal is that there isn't a way to link to this version of the source. --- UWashPrincipalCataloger 16:07, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
      • Maybe the ideal format is the above without "." and "-". In any case, https://wikidata-externalid-url.toolforge.org/ can be set to do whatever conversion is needed. --- Jura 06:26, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support I agree with Jura, this one is preferable to the other, and we definitely can set up a translation of the id's into the URL format. ArthurPSmith (talk) 11:57, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I would be fine with Jura's and ArthurPSmith's suggestion to create this property and translate the ID's into the URL format that takes you to the other website. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
• @UWashPrincipalCataloger, Hannes Röst, Jura1, ArthurPSmith:  Done --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 01:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
• @UWashPrincipalCataloger, Hannes Röst, Jura1: I've added a formatter URL to the property that works; however there seems to be some delay in its taking effect. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Looks good and works here. --Hannes Röst (talk) 17:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)