Wikidata:Property proposal/HarperCollins product ID

HarperCollins product ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: HarperCollins product ID (P10599) (Talk and documentation)

Description	ID of the product on the HarperCollins website
Represents	product (Q2424752)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item
Allowed values	[a-z\-]+
Example 1	The Boy, The Mole, The Fox And The Horse (Q104872109) → the-boy-the-mole-the-fox-and-the-horse-charlie-mackesy
Example 2	The One and Only Ivan (Q7755084) → the-one-and-only-ivan-katherine-applegate
Example 3	The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (Q485093) → the-lion-the-witch-and-the-wardrobe-c-s-lewis
Source	https://www.harpercollins.com/
Planned use	add to book releases
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.harpercollins.com/products/$1
Applicable "stated in"-value	HarperCollins (Q95149)
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Books (Q8487081)

Motivation edit

I want to create external identifier properties for all of the major book publishers. Lectrician1 (talk) 17:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 22:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there seems to be a problem with the datatype (currently item) and the values (currently titles not identifiers). Merely using ISBN would probably do. --- Jura 10:34, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jura1: Fixed the datatype. The title/author combination is the identifier. Lectrician1 (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  @Jura1 change your vote? Lectrician1 (talk) 23:01, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't think it's much of an identifier. I suppose you could just use official website. --- Jura 12:23, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jura1 This is meant to be used on literary works since the linked product page has options for multiple versions/ISBNs of the book. Also because it is on the work item, the work could possibly be published by 2 different publishers meaning there would be 2 official websites... Therefore, it makes sense just to leave it as an identifier. It having it's own property is also useful for querying and is a much stabler solution than qualifiers. Lectrician1 (talk) 13:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jura1 Any response? Lectrician1 (talk) 18:15, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I still agree with my point of view ;) --- Jura 16:10, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jura1 I think that the official website property should be reserved for the actual official website of a book. For example, the official website of A Time to Kill (Q1213715) is https://www.jgrisham.com/Books/a-time-to-kill/ .
    
    Even though this property value seems to be just to a link that includes the title and author, this is still very much an identifier. HarperCollins Publishing has thousands of books and creating a property for consistency just makes sense. This isn't just some random website that only has a few possible pages linked on Wikidata. It is a full database of books with a consistent linking scheme and unique IDs.
    
    In the future, we could even have this property recommended if a literary work item has a publisher: HarperCollins (Q95149) statement. Then people would be more likely to create a statement vs. somehow coming across it's usage of official website one day.
    
    A "HarperCollins variant ID" property for book variants that this current identifier redirects too could also be created. For example: 33007580708898. Lectrician1 (talk) 22:25, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jura1 any response? Lectrician1 (talk) 22:52, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    
    @Jura1 any response still? Lectrician1 (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    
    @Jura1 Still no response? Lectrician1 (talk) 21:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Germartin1 (talk) 14:17, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:17, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lectrician1, UWashPrincipalCataloger, Jura1, Germartin1: Done: HarperCollins product ID (P10599) —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]