Wikidata:Property proposal/Jewish Museum Berlin object ID

Jewish Museum Berlin object ID (JMB object ID) edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Descriptionobject identifier of the Jewish Museum in Berlin
RepresentsJewish Museum Berlin (Q157003)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed valuesjmb-obj-[1-9]\d{0,5}
Example 1Ernst Schwerin (1919-2010) Swiss identity papers (Q105030992)jmb-obj-541529
Example 2Death records maintained by Mathilde Schottländer (1814-1891) (Q105025828)jmb-obj-643889
Example 3Portrait of the sisters Käte, Lotte and Trude Salomon (Q105036672)jmb-obj-541609
Example 4Certificate of good conduct for the businessman Bernhard Freudenberg (1823-1877) (Q96666118)jmb-obj-541580
Example 5Portrait of Dr. Ernst Schwerin (1846-1920) (Q96118741)jmb-obj-541597
Example 6Portrait of Perez Leiser Abraham (1798-1882) (Q96650190)jmb-obj-541605
Example 7Moses Freudenberg (1786-1846) death certificate (Q96636850)jmb-obj-541576
Example 8Portrait of Hans Schwerin (1878-1945) with his sister Martha Schwerin (1876-1945) (Q96117873)jmb-obj-541607
Example 9Portrait of the sisters Eva (1925-1942) and Annemarie Loepert (1929-1942) (Q96111570)jmb-obj-541525
Example 10Bernhard Hans Schwerin family archive (Q61993417)jmb-obj-539628
Example 11Registration certificate from the Basel Police Department from the possession of Ernst Schwerin (1919-2010) (Q105047002)jmb-obj-541527
Sourcehttp://objekte.jmberlin.de
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd][en.wikt][fr.wikt].
Planned useLoad more of the images that are in the public domain, especially images with multiple people, and documents
Number of IDs in sourcegreater than (Q47035128) 17400 ref
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://objekte.jmberlin.de/object/$1 (search formatter URL = no value)
CountryGermany (Q183)
See alsoJewish Museum Berlin person ID (P6214)
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikidata:WikiProject Germany ({{Germany properties}})

Motivation edit

Over 10,000 objects in a database, many of them already loaded into Wikidata. Most of the JMB items are in the public domain, such as images of people and documents, as seen in the examples above. Please feel free to modify this proposal. RAN (talk) 20:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

  •   Support Nice that so many are already in Wikidata. ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support   Strong oppose
    • Identifiers should start with jmb-obj-. Like this, you will no longer confuse with the other property.
    • The formatterURL was copied, but not corrected.
    • The RegEx should be jmb-obj-[1-9]\d{0,5} in the allowed values field.
    • Your examples all start with "https", but don't match in formatter URL.
Cordially.—Eihel (talk) 08:07, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
When you find a typo, just correct it! That is why I wrote "Please feel free to modify this proposal" The correction has been made, are you opposed for other reasons? --RAN (talk) 21:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello first RAN   Recently, when I correct the expected completeness field and others, some replace my corrections with the old values, while my fix is obvious, so I avoid error propagation in production. In addition, I also avoid offending sensibilities by correcting too much the property propositions. I "propose and you dispose", that is the reason for my vote. But since you invite me, I finish my corrections according to my last writings. Would that be okay with you ? —Eihel (talk) 08:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Make any changes you feel are needed. --RAN (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ):   Done Jewish Museum Berlin object ID (P9115)Eihel (talk) 09:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject GermanyEihel (talk) 09:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Eihel: Since we changed this identifier to please the dissenter, and added "jmb-obj-" to each identifier number, we need to switch the other property Property:P6214 to match this one. by adding "jmb-pers-". Is that possible, or is it too late once it is created? Having two schemes for the same database will confuse everyone, especially me, since I am the only one adding the info from the museum. The changes were made to please someone who probably will not be contributing to the project, but made to change their vote, blocking the creation. --RAN (talk) 18:15, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Look at the identifiers of Wikidata:Property proposal/LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer IDs, they all start with MID, but you can see that MID is kept. The other property should have jmb-pers-, because it's part of the identifier. —Eihel (talk) 18:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Eihel: Can you make the switch at the other property? There are less than a dozen entries so far. --RAN (talk) 18:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]