Wikidata:Property proposal/Lib.ru author ID

Lib.ru author ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: Lib.ru author ID (P10362) (Talk and documentation)

Description	идентификатор автора на Lib.ru (ru) – (Please translate this into English.)
Represents	lib.ru (Q2371298)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), musical group (Q215380)
Example 1	Mikhail Bulgakov (Q835) → BULGAKOW
Example 2	William Shakespeare (Q692) → SHAKESPEARE
Example 3	Joseph Brodsky (Q862) → BRODSKIJ
Example 4	Sergei Eisenstein (Q8003) → CINEMA/kinolit/EJZENSHTEJN
Example 5	Jethro Tull (Q192353) → SONGS/jethro.txt
Source	http://www.lib.ru/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	for usage in stated in (P248) and for Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
Number of IDs in source	unknown
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	http://www.lib.ru/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Yes, it would be great to have a separate mix'n'match catalog.
See also	Project Gutenberg author ID (P1938)
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Wikidata:WikiProject Russia, Wikidata:WikiProject Books

Motivation edit

Lib.ru was oldest Russian internet-library, was founded November 1, 1994. For the first time, with the help of Maxim Moshkov's Library, a Russian-speaking Internet user got the opportunity to read his favorite literary work without leaving home for an ordinary paper book. Both in the late 90s and early 2000s, and in 2021, the design of the site remains unchanged. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Stolbovsky (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
Notified participants of WikiProject Russia, WikiProject Books has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:19, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC) Jonathan Groß (talk) 17:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits Jneubert (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Sic19 (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Wikidelo (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC) ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC) Ettorerizza (talk) 06:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC) Epìdosis (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC) Sotho Tal Ker (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Bargioni (talk) 09:48, 02 May 2020 (UTC) Carlobia (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 03:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC) Matlin (talk) 10:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC) Msuicat (talk) 21:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Uomovariabile (talk) 10:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC) Silva Selva (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 1-Byte (talk) 15:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC) Alessandra.Moi (talk) 17:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC) CamelCaseNick (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC) Songceci (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)]] moz (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC) AhavaCohen (talk) 14:41, 11 March 2021 (UTC) Kolja21 (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2021 (UTC) RShigapov (talk) 14:34, 19 September 2021 (UTC) Jason.nlw (talk) 15:15, 30 September 2021 (UTC) MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC) Newt713 (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2022 (UTC) Pierre Tribhou (talk) 08:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC) Powerek38 (talk) 17:21, 14 April 2022 (UTC) Ahatd (talk) 08:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC) JordanTimothyJames (talk) 00:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC) --Silviafanti (talk) 17:07, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Back ache (talk) 02:03, 1 November 2022 (UTC) AfricanLibrarian (talk) M.roszkowski (talk) 10:44, 4 January 2023 (UTC) Rhagfyr (talk) 19:36, 9 January 2023 (UTC) — Haseeb (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC) 沈澄心 ✉ 13:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 19:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Thanks for this proposal! I added another example, and edited a bit more.
- Some values are not folders but files (eg *.txt). I think that's ok since we want to get to the content, no matter how it's organized
- I think the ru name should mention "Lib.ru" whereas the description should mention "Библиотеке Максима Мошкова"
- What should be the domain? I added musical group (Q215380) but that's not enough because a book can be about anything (and not all lib.ru links are to "author" pages)
- Is the prefix always "www." Eg [1] refers to
```
[http://world.lib.ru/k/kim_o_i/kkk5.shtml История иммиграции корейцев.]
```
- Do you commit to populate it with some values? Eg
  - [2] lists a bunch of pages
  - [3] (about Jethro Tull (Q192353)) has
```
 [http://www.lib.ru/SONGS/jethro.txt Тексты песен] в [http://www.lib.ru/ библиотеке Мошкова]
```
    from which the id can be extracted
  - However, that won't be so easy and will require some filtering because eg these links (from 2 book pages) are to the same "author" page on lib.ru:
```
Золотое сердце (корабль) — ссылка на http://www.lib.ru/ADAMS/
```
```
Автостопом по галактике (серия романов) — ссылка на http://www.lib.ru/ADAMS/
```
    --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 12:52, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Что ещё недостаёт для потенциального свойства Викиданных? Всё же могут быть отдельные свойства и к произведениям авторов. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 22:24, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, an important property for art.--Arbnos (talk) 11:22, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Properties has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 10:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

+ WikiProject Books has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 05:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Stolbovsky (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
Notified participants of WikiProject Russia —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:19, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, the oldest runet library, I think it's worth it Carn (talk) 09:43, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MasterRus21thCentury, Vladimir Alexiev, Arbnos, Carn:

Done Lib.ru author ID (P10362) Pamputt (talk) 17:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]