Wikidata:Property proposal/Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora Database ID

Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora Database ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

Done: Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora Database ID (P10528) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier of a plant species in the Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora Database
Represents	Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora & Fauna Database (Q108556624)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item; taxon (Q16521), plant (Q756)
Allowed values	[1-9]\d*
Example 1	Tidestromia suffruticosa (Q15556082) → 2
Example 2	Ambrosia psilostachya (Q3613854) → 11
Example 3	Claytonia perfoliata (Q1376670) → 342
Example 4	Abies concolor (Q145939) → 982
Example 5	Viola nephrophylla (Q3009652) → 2450
Example 6	Nectandra globosa (Q15609790) → 47342
Example 7	Dubautia plantaginea (Q3677805) → 110852
Source	https://www.madreandiscovery.org/flora/index.php
Planned use	adding to species items that we edit or create
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.madreandiscovery.org/flora/taxa/index.php?tid=$1
Country	United States of America (Q30), Mexico (Q96)
See also	proposed property Madrean Discovery Expeditions Fauna Database ID
Applicable "stated in"-value	Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora & Fauna Database (Q108556624)

Motivation edit

The Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora & Fauna Database (Q108556624) contains a total of over 34,000 records covering plants and animals of the Madrean Archipelago of Arizona, New Mexico, and Mexico. Database entries include classification, common name, synonyms, images, description, maps, and links to external resources. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 21:19, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Oppose empty. Not useful at the moment. --Succu (talk) 21:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Succu: I do not understand your opposition to this. Why is it not useful? Are you saying that the information on the individual plant species pages is not correct or useful? Did you look at the links to the species descriptions that I included as examples? UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 08:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Looks like the website is under construction. It's unclear who operates it. WD should not promote such sites. --Succu (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2021 (UTC) PS: The entry to Tidestromia suffruticosa is a copy of FNA --Succu (talk) 18:13, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - The header refers to the non existing website greatergood.org and to another advertising website: the rainforest site. @UWashPrincipalCataloger --Succu (talk) 20:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Succu wrote: "It's unclear who operates it." The sponsor is Greater Good Charities: https://greatergood.org/madrean-discovery-expedition. Greater Good Charities' website is https://greatergood.org/?hsLang=en. One of Greater Good Charities' projects is Madrean Discovery Expeditions, "which is dedicated to exploring, studying, and protecting the Madrean Archipelago, a series of unique ecosystems that range from New Mexico and Arizona to Mexico." The director of Madrean Discovery Expeditions is Thomas R. Van Devender, who was the Senior Research Scientist at the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum for 25 years. Some of the entries include information from FNA, but others include and collocate other sources as well. For example Ambrosia psilostachya has info from FNA and also from Flora of Indiana and SW Field Guide, with external links to FNA, IPNI, and other sources. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 21:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 18:52, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Pteropotamus (talk) 10:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support I disagree with Succu. It is clear who operates this site, and the collocation of information and images from a variety of sources makes the information useful. --Crystal Clements, University of Washington Libraries (talk) 19:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Germartin1 (talk) 10:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 11:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@UWashPrincipalCataloger, Succu, Thierry Caro, Pteropotamus, Germartin1: Done: Madrean Discovery Expeditions Flora Database ID (P10528) — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 09:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]