Wikidata:Property proposal/Mapping Museums ID

Mapping Museums ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization

Done: Mapping Museums ID (P10873) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a UK museum existing in the 1960 to 2022 period, in the Birkbeck, University of London project database
Represents	Mapping Museums (Q103036767)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item - museum (Q33506)
Allowed values	mm\.(?:domus\|musa\|ace\|aim\|aim82M\|aim82NM\|fcm\|hha\|hud\|mald\|MDN\|mgs\|misc\|Mus70Cal\|New\|nimc\|wiki)\.[A-Z]{0,2}\d{3,4}
Example 1	Scottish National Portrait Gallery (Q2441562) → mm.domus.SC284
Example 2	Fleetwood Museum (Q5458502) → mm.domus.NW043
Example 3	Rye Art Gallery (Q29364128) → mm.domus.SE462
Example 4	Wellcome Collection (Q7981191) → mm.musa.373
Source	https://museweb.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/allmus
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	populate c.2000 items from https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/?#/catalog/5312
Number of IDs in source	4191
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://museweb.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/Museum/$1
Applicable "stated in"-value	Mapping Museums (Q103036767)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation edit

Mapping Museums is the single most authoritative source/listing of current and closed UK museums, arising from 4+ years of academic research. The project is ongoing. Tagishsimon (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:55, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Lots of excellent matching already done. Getting this property approved will make geo-matching also possible, which should help even more. (In addition to this being an excellent database, well worth having the links to & being able to easily reference from wikidata). Jheald (talk) 17:24, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jheald:: why would you have to wait for property approval to start geo-matching? It's already here in Mix'n'Match! Nono314 (talk) 20:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support external identifier. John Samuel (talk) 18:17, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support If "mm." is in the identifier for all of the museums, perhaps that should be part of the formatter URL and can be omitted from the identifier? UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 15:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Although it is the case that all MM records have an ID starting mm.,~~ oh - one doesn't! - https://museweb.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/Museum/domus.NE043 - it is equally the case that MM specify the ID as including that mm. - see https://museweb.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/allmus - and so if WD is to store the MM ID, it's probably better to replicate the source than truncate it. Not least, any searches for or queries on the WD MM ID values which start from an apprehension of the MM ID format can be expected to include the mm. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:31, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tagishsimon, Pigsonthewing, Jheald, Jsamwrites: Done as Mapping Museums ID (P10873). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 22:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tagishsimon: Please check the regex used in the property. When you try to add the IDs to museum items, it reduces the ID to just the numeric value at the end. For example, when I tried to add "mm.domus.SE462" to Rye Art Gallery (Q29364128), it only kept "462". UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 22:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tagishsimon: No worries, the regex is now working. I guess it just took a few minutes for it to kick in. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 22:34, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]