Wikidata:Property proposal/NWT Species ID

NWT Species ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

   Done: NWT Species ID (P10064) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a taxon in the Northwest Territories in the NWT Species database
Represents	NWT Species (Q109289360)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item; taxon (Q16521)
Allowed values	[a-z]+(\-[a-z]+)*
Example 1	Abagrotis placida (Q13220979) → abagrotis-placida
Example 2	Aculepeira carbonarioides (Q1645348) → aculepeira-carbonarioides
Example 3	Bythocaris cryonesus (Q4469163) → bythocaris-cryonesus
Example 4	Coregonus autumnalis (Q6714971) → coregonus-autumnalis
Example 5	lake whitefish (Q110577) → coregonus-clupeaformis-incl-coregonus-nelsonnii
Example 6	Regulus calendula (Q576050) → corthylio-calendula-regulus-calendula
Example 7	beluga whale (Q132072) → delphinapterus-leucas
Example 8	Achnatherum richardsonii (Q4673858) → achnatherum-richardsonii-stipa-richardsonii
Example 9	Alisma triviale (Q5233486) → alisma-triviale-alisma-plantago-aquatica-var-ame
Source	https://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/species-search/
Planned use	adding as items for species are worked on
Number of IDs in source	8410
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/species-search/$1
See also	E-Fauna BC species ID (P9690), E-Flora BC species ID (P9691), Weeds in Ontario ID (P6285), VASCAN ID (P1745), Species at Risk public registry ID (P6019)
Applicable "stated in"-value	NWT Species (Q109289360)

Motivation

This is a database of species found in the Northwest Territories. This property would improve coverage of taxa from this place. Similar properties for other provinces and territories of Canada have been established, e.g. E-Fauna BC species ID (P9690) and E-Flora BC species ID (P9691), Weeds in Ontario ID (P6285). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 19:36, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

 Oppose not an external-id. Datatype should be URL. --Succu (talk) 20:18, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

•  Comment @Succu: This simply is not true. It is a valid external-id, just like it is in numerous other taxon properties. See, for example, the examples used in the following properties: ARKive ID (archived) (P2833), NSW Flora ID (P3130), conifers.org ID (P1940), ADW taxon ID (P4024), PfaF ID (P4301), ScaleNet ID (P6516), Flora of Australia ID (new) (P6756), Australian Faunal Directory ID (P6039), MNHN taxon ID (P6046), eBird taxon ID (P3444), Pilze Deutschland ID (P7254), Plant Parasites of Europe ID (P6061), ABA bird ID (P4526), FEIS ID (P6044), Moose Deutschland ID (P7255), and numerous others. All of these use alphabetical strings as identifiers that are often identical or similar to a species name. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
  • So what? You omitted the strangest of them: The Reptile Database ID (P5473). A part of an URL or URI is never an ID of it's own. --Succu (talk) 06:17, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
    • That is a strange one! My point was given all of the other properties, there's no reason that this one shouldn't also be an external identifier. But if the community decides that this should be a URL instead, that can easily be changed here. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 17:59, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
      • It's up to you to do so. --Succu (talk) 20:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to hear comments from others. Are we going to revise all those other properties to change them to URLs instead of identifiers? UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 20:21, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

•  Comment @Succu: I fail to see why part of a URI cannot be an external identifier. There are countless external identifiers on Wikidata that are not different from the one proposed here. What is the difference you see? If all identifiers that can be expressed in linked data as dereferenceable URI's need to be datatype=URL, that is news to me and would require a huge amount of work to implement, as @UWashPrincipalCataloger: points out. --Crystal Clements, University of Washington Libraries (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Try Uniform Resource Identifier (Q61694), User:Clements.UWLib. --Succu (talk) 21:50, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

 Support --Crystal Clements, University of Washington Libraries (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

•  Support --Emwille (talk)
•  Support --Pteropotamus (talk) 18:09, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
•  Support as external identifier. - PKM (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

@UWashPrincipalCataloger, Succu, Clements.UWLib, Emwille, Pteropotamus, PKM:  Done NWT Species ID (P10064) Pamputt (talk) 13:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)