Wikidata:Property proposal/Number by nationality, religion and gender
number by nationality or religion or gender edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
| Description | a qualifier about the number of an amount of persons by their nationality or their religion or their gender (for example in a census using population (P1082), or using the number of deaths (P1120) in an event or cause) |
|---|---|
| Data type | Quantity |
| Domain | any place, any event |
| Allowed values | All integer number bigger or equal 0. |
| Allowed units | See motivation |
| Example | Pristina (Q25270) → population (P1082) → 198,897 → number by nationality → 194,452 Albanians (Q179248) |
| Source | external reference, Wikipedia list article |
| Planned use | census results |
| Robot and gadget jobs | yes |
- Motivation
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
| Description | a qualifier about the number of an amount of person by their religion (for example in a census using population (P1082), or using the number of deaths (P1120) in an event or cause) |
|---|---|
| Data type | Quantity |
| Domain | any place, any event |
| Allowed values | All integer number bigger or equal 0. |
| Allowed units | See motivation |
| Example | Pristina (Q25270) → population (P1082) → 198,897 → number by religion → 480 Orthodox Christians |
| Source | external reference, Wikipedia list article |
| Planned use | census results |
| Robot and gadget jobs | yes |
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
| Description | a qualifier about the number of an amount of persons by their gender (for example in a census using population (P1082), or using the number of deaths (P1120) in an event or cause) |
|---|---|
| Data type | Quantity |
| Domain | any place, any event |
| Allowed values | All integer number bigger or equal 0. |
| Allowed units | See motivation |
| Example | Pristina (Q25270) → population (P1082) → 198,897 → number by gender → 99,361 males |
| Source | external reference, Wikipedia list article |
| Planned use | census results |
| Robot and gadget jobs | yes |
- Motivation
Hello. We need a qualifier to show the population synthesis by nationality or religion or gender. Many census use to or used to have that data. Please also see Wikidata:Project chat#Population synthesis. We can you use this qualifier for other things like number of deaths (P1120), as a user proposed. A problem will be how we are going to write the nationality, the religion or the gender.
- Pristina (Q25270) → population (P1082) → 198,897 → number by nationality → 194,452 Albanians (Q179248) . How the word Albanians will be written? By unit?
- Pristina (Q25270) → population (P1082) → 198,897 → number by religion → 480 Orthodox Christians. How the word Orthodox Christians will be written? By unit?
- Pristina (Q25270) → population (P1082) → 198,897 → number by gender → 99,361 males. How the word male will be written? By unit?
Another problem may be if the census have more specific data like male Albanians and female Albanians? Or male Orthodox Christians and female Orthodox Christians?
If this qualifiers will approve, we have to delete male population (P1540) and female population (P1539), because we will can have a most generic properties to use. Xaris333 (talk) 20:10, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
If you have any ideas how to have that data with properties we already have, please show me the way.
- Discussion
- Don't forget age, language spoken, citizenship, ethnic group/ethnic origin, other visible minority groups, immigrant status, maybe also income, level of education, political identification, employment status, literacy, and a lot of other demographic elements that we might want to keep track of. Maybe also miscellaneous survey results. I think we should use tabular data for this and develop a standard table structure and set of qualifiers, rather than add endless specific properties and thousands of statements per item. We could have one "tabular demographic data" property for anything more complex than simple population. --Yair rand (talk) 23:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Oppose. I'd rather have only one new property based on sub-population (Q2311577). We would have Pristina (Q25270) → new property → Albanians (Q179248) (quantity (P1114) → 194,452) and Pristina (Q25270) → new property → new Orthodox Christian item (quantity (P1114) → 480), for instance. Thierry Caro (talk) 05:26, 1 January 2018 (UTC)- Oppose I like Thierry Caro's more general solution here, can we try that approach? That would mean a new property proposal for "subpopulation" I think. ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:58, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
@Thierry Caro: @ArthurPSmith: Fine with me. I just wanted to have the data on Wikidata. An administrator please to close the current proposal. The new one Wikidata:Property proposal/subpopulation. Xaris333 (talk) 00:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)