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Wikidata:Property proposal/Online Books Page publication ID

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Online Books Page publication ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Descriptionidentifier for a publication, at the Online Books Page website
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainpublications
Allowed values[a-z0-9]+
Example 1The New York Times (Q9684) → nytimes
Example 2Ladies' Home Journal (Q2394235) → lhj
Example 3The Philadelphia Inquirer (Q600111) → phillyinq
Sourcehttp://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttp://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/cinfo/$1
Robot and gadget jobsEventually a mix and match bot

Motivation

Or should it be called "Online Books Page copyright ID". An amazing resource that has the date for the first copyrighted issue for publications that filed for copyright renewals. I plan to eventually, with help of a bot programmer, extract the dates and import them into a new field. The field will use the original database as the reference. The new field with the date can be used to scan and flag Wikimedia Commons items for copyright conflict. Lets say that a scan of a New York Times article from 1950 is marked with {{PD-US-not renewed}}. A bot can compare the date of the article with the date of first renewal and flag it to be checked by a human. I will also ask the creator if he is interested in adding a Wikidata link to his pages, that way we can work on both end for completeness. RAN (talk) 01:17, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

  •   Support. Great use case. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:21, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • As maintainer of this ID, I'll abstain from support or opposition here, though I'm fine with Wikidata using it if the community finds it useful. I do have some technical notes that might be helpful to this discussion:
    • IDs can contain digits as well as lowercase letters. I reserve the right to also include certain other characters, such as punctuation, but so far have not done so.
    • I use the IDs both for copyright information (link form as above), and as keys for listings of free online issues (link form: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/serial?id=$1). Some serials have copyright information links, some have online issues links, some have both. Full lists of IDs used in either or both contexts can be derived from my Github repository at https://github.com/JohnMarkOckerbloom/onlinebooks - I can discuss details further with those interested.
    • The copyright information data I track includes two "first renewals", one for the first issue renewal, one for the first contribution renewal. Again, I can discuss details with those interested on how to extract these from my JSON files. The first renewal dates are intended to indicate the first *active* renewals, that is, those still in force. Currently the oldest such copyrights under US law are from 1923; copyrights from 1922 and earlier have expired. As of January 2019, barring changes in copyright law, the oldest US copyrights will be from 1924, and I plan to bump up applicable first-renewals dates accordingly that year and in subsequent years as copyright law allows.
    • There is no guarantee that the issue set of a serial as I list it will exactly match the issue set of a serial as described in Wikipedia or in an ISSN record. (But if you've worked with serials much, you already know that different catalogs can have different notions of exactly what makes up a serial, since name and publisher changes, publication hiatuses, multiple editions, splits and mergers, and the like can make it a bit fuzzy or contentious about where one serial ends and another begins.)
    • The copyright information records I maintain can contain additional information beyond first-renewal dates, some of which may be important to determine copyright, so I definitely recommend links back to the full copyright information record. (For instance, some material before the first renewal may still be under copyright if it's a non-US publication, or if it's reprinted from another publication.)
    • The copyright information records can also contain data on additional renewals-- they can, for instance, contain a list of *all* filed renewals for a publication if someone wants to go to the trouble of compiling it. An example can be found at http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/cinfo/amazingstories . If any Wikidata participants are interested in compiling additional or enhanced copyright data on their favorite serials, they can contact me for more information on how to do this. JohnMarkOckerbloom (talk) 10:57, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support David (talk) 12:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, JohnMarkOckerbloom, Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), Pigsonthewing:   Done: Online Books Page publication ID (P5396). − Pintoch (talk) 08:05, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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