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headword languge of dictionary

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Description	headword languge of dictionary
Data type	Item
Example 1	Muʻjam al-muṣṭalaḥāt al-ʻIlmīyah : Rūsī-ʻArabī (Q131448986) → Arabic (Q13955)
Example 2	Muʻjam muṣṭalaḥāt al-ʻilm wa-al-tiknūlūjiyā (Q130204326) → Arabic (Q13955)
Example 3	Muʽjam al-muṣṭalaḥāt al-fannīyah wa-al-ʽilmīyah wa-al-handasīyah : faransī-ʽarabī (2006) (Q123110925) → Arabic (Q13955)

definition language of dictionary

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Description	definition language of dictionary
Data type	Item
Example 1	Muʻjam al-muṣṭalaḥāt al-ʻIlmīyah : Rūsī-ʻArabī (Q131448986) → Russian (Q7737)
Example 2	Muʻjam muṣṭalaḥāt al-ʻilm wa-al-tiknūlūjiyā (Q130204326) → English (Q1860)
Example 3	Muʽjam al-muṣṭalaḥāt al-fannīyah wa-al-ʽilmīyah wa-al-handasīyah : faransī-ʽarabī (2006) (Q123110925) → French (Q150)

Motivation

These two properties are essential in dictionaries.

headword languge of dictionary: The language from which the text is being translated.
definition language of dictionary: The language into which the text is being translated.

For example, if you're translating from Arabic to English:

headword languge of dictionary: Arabic
definition language of dictionary: English.--Mohammed Qays (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support We need this property in Documentation and Arabization initiative (Q117383650), we have documented more than 500 Arabic dictionary in wikidata, and this will be very useful for us.--Michel Bakni (talk) 23:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support This property is essential for us.--Faisal ^talk 23:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support--باسم (talk) 06:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please named it "headword languge of dictionary" and "definition language of dictionary". The current name is too ambigous.--GZWDer (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GZWDer I said a essential for dictionaries, and not only mandatory for dictionaries, it can be used in acoustics, so I find their description and explanation accurate about their work. Mohammed Qays (talk) 14:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not use this property for any translated work. Previously we have a original language of film or TV show (P364) with label "original language", but the usage of it for written work are discontinued by consensus, since it is redundant with edition or translation of (P629)+language of work or name (P407). GZWDer (talk) 14:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done According to your suggestion @GZWDer Mohammed Qays (talk) 11:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support.--عبد الجليل 09 (talk) 09:55, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Sandra Hanbo (talk) 21:32, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Alternatively we could make this imporant distinction with qualifiers like this: language of work or name (P407)Arabic (Q13955)object of statement has role (P3831)headword language and language of work or name (P407)Russian (Q7737)object of statement has role (P3831)definition language. I think this could be a better approach compared to creating very narrow language properties. Samoasambia ✎ 18:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the ready status since there hasn't yet been any answers to this option. Samoasambia ✎ 00:07, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Samoasambia I explained the topic above clearly. I don't know the purpose of disabling the creation of a Property despite the consensus among colleagues. Mohammed Qays (talk) 09:55, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ArthurPSmith Mohammed Qays (talk) 12:43, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The resolution of @Samoasambia is best, less of duplicated data.--حبيشان (talk) 21:31, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]