Wikidata:Property proposal/Spanish Catalogued Heritage

Bien Catalogado (es) / Bé Catalogat (ca) – (Please translate this into English.)

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Withdrawn

Description	unique identifier for Spanish Catalogued Heritage
Represents	Q65095913 and Bien Catalogado of the Aragonese Cultural Heritage (Q26934132)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	"idurlza" in ca:template:Filera IPA / designacio1_id in ca:template:infotaula edifici
Domain	Q65095913, Bien Catalogado of the Aragonese Cultural Heritage (Q26934132) and its subclasses or for other autonomous communities.
Allowed values	[1-9]\d{1,4}
Example 1	Casa de Sa Colomina (Q65095658) → R052
Example 2	Q65115085 → 0000373-00000
Example 3	Q65115104 → R029
Source	http://www.caib.es/sites/institutestudisautonomics/f/197517
Planned use	Manage in WLM list. Use it in the correspondent infoboxes

Motivació

It's the ID for an official inventory of catalogued sites with an immediate protection level below Bien de Interés Cultural (Q23712). There is a code linked with this rank that should be able to be added. --Xavier Dengra (talk) 22:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

1.  Support --Xavier Dengra (talk) 22:14, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Support David (talk) 06:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment Hi Xavier Dengra. This proposal is very interesting. understand this property should address the items cataloged in the autonomous communities as "bien catalogado", not only in the two scopes of Aragon and Balearic Islands, but for the another autonomous communities too, but I think we should clarify some points:

  1. The examples you used have links without identifiers, so it isn't possible to create a property to link them. The website you link it isn't a database or a portal, they are documents in PDF formats. There isn't an available database with this items cataloged with an unique identifier.
  2. If there were a service to link the identifier (e.g. https://website.es/r052) and then it would redirect to the PDF document, it would be more interesting, but it isn't the case apparently.
  3. Why not use it as it has been used until now? Like heritage designation (P1435)Bien Catalogado of the Aragonese Cultural Heritage (Q26934132). At least until there is a project or database with identifiers for this items.

  And I would like to emphasize in the possible problematic of a unique or similar identifier between autonomous communities. If the pattern of the identifier isn't similar or the same, the regular expression to match it would be very complex. Thus I think it might be more useful to have an identifier for each community, in the case these ones exists in an available database.

  It is late so excuse me if I didn't explain myself well, but I wanted to address this proposal before to rest for today.

  Regards, Ivanhercaz (Talk) 22:44, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ivanhercaz: Hi! Thanks for your comments! It was my fault that I didn't think about the fact that all these identifiers do not belong to the same institution and have different codes. In fact, the property is the same but it is managed in a completely different way in each autonomous community. This is, indeed, a pity. Therefore, and accoding with the recommendations of my colleagues in the w:ca:Tema:V32cle3d2oz0279FCatalan Wikipedia, I will better close this proposal. Best regards, --Xavier Dengra (talk) 20:31, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

@Xavier Dengra: I think it would be awesome to have a common portal for all the cultural heritage in Spain, each monument with its own identifier (BIC, BC, etc.) and with links to its regional portal if it exists. So if you are agree it may be fine if you mark in the status field this proposal as `withdrawn`. If someday I can help you with something, let me know! Regards, Ivanhercaz (Talk)