Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports
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See alsoEdit
- Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending – properties which have been approved but which are on hold waiting for the appropriate datatype to be made available
- Wikidata:Properties for deletion – proposals for the deletion of properties
- Wikidata:External identifiers – statements to add when creating properties for external IDs
- Wikidata:Lexicographical data – information and discussion about lexicographic data on Wikidata
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Sports equipmentEdit
Sports venueEdit
WorldFootball.net stadium IDEdit
| Description | identifier for a association football (soccer) stadium in the WorldFootball.net database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Worldfootball.net (Q20773699) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | stadium (Q483110) |
| Example 1 | Emirates Stadium (Q163995) → emirates-stadium-london |
| Example 2 | Volkswagen Arena (Q155603) → volkswagen-arena-wolfsburg |
| Example 3 | Camp Nou (Q159848) → camp-nou-barcelona |
| Example 4 | Donbass Arena (Q180479) → donbass-arena-donezk |
| Source | https://www.worldfootball.net/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd]. |
| Planned use | for 'External links' sections on Wikipedia |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.worldfootball.net/venues/$1 |
| See also | StadiumDB identifier (P5288), WorldFootball.net team ID (P7287) |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Association football |
MotivationEdit
Will be useful for stated in (P248). Contains valueable data by various football stadium. --Mitte27 (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Support Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 09:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)- Support --Gabbg82 (talk) 16:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
EU-Football.info stadium IDEdit
| Description | identifier for a association football (soccer) stadium in the EU-Football.info database |
|---|---|
| Represents | EU-Football.info (Q19428050) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | stadium (Q483110) |
| Example 1 | Estadio Santiago Bernabéu (Q164027) → 108 |
| Example 2 | Olympiastadion Berlin (Q151374) → 715 |
| Example 3 | Wembley Stadium (Q128468) → 1070 |
| Example 4 | Donbass Arena (Q180479) → 1955 |
| Source | https://eu-football.info/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd]. |
| Planned use | for 'External links' sections on Wikipedia |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://eu-football.info/_venue.php?id=$1 |
| See also | StadiumDB identifier (P5288), EU-Football.info club ID (P7854) |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Association football |
MotivationEdit
Will be useful for stated in (P248). Contains valueable data by various football stadium. --Mitte27 (talk) 07:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 06:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Sports teamEdit
Sporting eventEdit
National Football Teams.com match IDEdit
MotivationEdit
These pages are already often linked to from Wikipedia match articles and we already have properties with players and club IDs of National Football Teams.com . --Mitte27 (talk) 17:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 08:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Gabbg82 (talk) 16:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
motorsportstats.com event IDEdit
| Description | identifier for a motorsport event at motorsportstats.com |
|---|---|
| Represents | race (Q22938576) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | Wikidata property related to motorsports (Q29868164), Wikidata property related to sport events (Q28106586) |
| Allowed values | [a-z-]+ |
| Example 1 | 2017 Australian Grand Prix (Q28058799) → 2017-australian-grand-prix |
| Example 2 | 2016 Goody's Fast Relief 500 (Q28230839) → 2016-goody-s-fast-relief-500 |
| Example 3 | 2015 Indianapolis 500 (Q16973773) → 2015-indianapolis-500 |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://results.motorsportstats.com/results/$1 |
| See also | motorsportstats.com driver ID (P8140), motorsportstats.com series ID (P8141), motorsportstats.com venue ID (P8142), motorsportstats.com team ID (P8178) |
MotivationEdit
Motorsport statistics by Motorsport Network. Teester (talk) 12:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
DiscussionEdit
- Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 08:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Teester, Thierry Caro, Сидик из ПТ: motorsportstats.com event ID (P8284) is available. Pamputt (talk) 05:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Sports organizationEdit
AthleteEdit
UEFA referee IDEdit
MotivationEdit
Provides useful historical information on referees in all UEFA competitions. S.A. Julio (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
DiscussionEdit
- Support David (talk) 14:31, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Oppose Here we have links with "coaches/coach" path (same as UEFA coach ID (P7360)) and it works for referees. I think we should have only one property for UEFA persons. Also look to Andriy Shevchenko (Q41244) IDs of player[1] and coach[2] careers. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 08:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think having two types of persons in the same property would only add confusion. If someone saw the property UEFA coach ID (P7360) on a referee, they might be inclined to remove it thinking it is not meant for a referee. Also, having separate properties allows for a constraint for only association football referee (Q859528). S.A. Julio (talk) 15:36, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- We have the practice of not making separate properties for the same IDs: Wikidata:Property proposal/BDFutbol manager ID, Wikidata:Property proposal/Soccerway coach ID. We only need to rename the property to UEFA person ID and delete separate coaches property. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 08:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think having two types of persons in the same property would only add confusion. If someone saw the property UEFA coach ID (P7360) on a referee, they might be inclined to remove it thinking it is not meant for a referee. Also, having separate properties allows for a constraint for only association football referee (Q859528). S.A. Julio (talk) 15:36, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose like Сидик из ПТУ. we need to rename P7360 and use it for referees too. - yona b (talk) 11:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Canadian Football League player IDEdit
| Description | identifier for a player on the Canadian Football League website |
|---|---|
| Represents | Canadian Football League (Q1032175) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | Q19841381 |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Boris Bede (Q20666343) → 160216 |
| Example 2 | Bo Levi Mitchell (Q4931121) → 158222 |
| Example 3 | Brandon Banks (Q2923737) → 152593 |
| Example 4 | Andrew Harris (Q4757239) → 143711 |
| Source | https://www.cfl.ca/players/ |
| Planned use | Incremental use |
| Number of IDs in source | Probably a few hundreds |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.cfl.ca/players/wd/$1/ |
MotivationEdit
Notified participants of WikiProject Sport results.
Notified participants of WikiProject Canada.
-- English -- To improve our coverage of professional Canadian football players. It must be noted that two difficulties were encountered while doing research for this proposal:
- a search for a player name on the Players page on the CFL website (https://www.cfl.ca/players/) links to the player's page on his team's website. Depending on the team, the ID part of the URL may be the same that the page on the cfl.ca domain, or it may be different. Examples:
- For Brandon Banks of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, the link leads to https://ticats.ca/players/152593. To get to the CFL page, one needs to replace "ticats.ca" by "cfl.ca" and manually add "/brandon-banks/" to obtain https://www.cfl.ca/players/brandon-banks/152593
- For Andrew Harris of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, the link leads to https://www.bluebombers.com/players/andrew-harris/143711/. To get to the CFL page, it is sufficent to replace "www.bluebombers.com" by "cfl.ca".
- retired players are not present on the Players page. I don't know what happens to the player page itself ; is it deleted or kept ?
-- Français-- Pour améliorer la documentation des joueurs professionnels de football canadien. À noter que les particularités suivantes ont été rencontrées lors des recherches pour faire cette demande:
- La recherche d'un joueur sur la page principale des joueurs de la LCF (https://www.cfl.ca/players/) nous amène sur la page du joueur sur le site de son équipe. Selon l'équipe en question, la partie identifiant de l'URL peut être pareille ou différente que celle de la page sur le domaine cfl.ca (ou lcf.ca). Exemples:
- Pour Brandon Banks des Tiger-Cats de Hamilton, le lien mène à https://ticats.ca/players/152593. Pour obtenir la page du site de la LCF, il faut remplacer "ticats.ca" par "cfl.ca" et ajouter manuellement "/brandon-banks/" pour obtenir https://www.cfl.ca/players/brandon-banks/152593.
- Pour Andrew Harris des Blue Bombers de Winnipeg, le lien mène à https://www.bluebombers.com/players/andrew-harris/143711/. Pour obtenir la page du site de la LCF, il suffit de remplacer "www.bluebombers.com" par "cfl.ca".
- Les joueurs à la retraite ne sont plus présents sur la page principale des joueurs (https://www.cfl.ca/players/). J'ignore ce qui arrive avec leur page; est-ell supprimée ou conservée ?
Cortomaltais (talk) 18:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
DiscussionEdit
- Support. I have modified the formatter URL to make IDs entirely numerical. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Olympedia identifierEdit
| Description | identifier for an athlete at www.olympedia.org |
|---|---|
| Represents | Olympedia athlete database (Q95606922) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | human (Q5) with possibly very few exceptions (<5) |
| Allowed values | [1-9]\d{0,6} |
| Example 1 | Laura Dahlmeier (Q4980869) → 127804 |
| Example 2 | Steve Redgrave (Q52679) → 37440 |
| Example 3 | Miriam Welte (Q65733) → 125466 |
| Source | https://www.olympedia.org/athletes |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd]. |
| Planned use | import ~130k values based on a mapping table sent by the Olympedia team (User:MisterSynergy) |
| Number of IDs in source | 164962 (2020-05-27) |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/$1 |
| See also | Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) in particular, but also International Olympic Committee athlete ID (P3171), databaseOlympics.com athlete ID (P3520), TheSports.org athlete ID (P4391), and Olympic Channel athlete ID (P5815) |
MotivationEdit
In the past, the database at www.sports-reference.com/olympics has been pretty much the gold standard of Olympic participation data in all Wikimedia projects. We have Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) for this site, but recently the data was removed from the Sports-Reference.com servers. This had been announced to happen eventually almost 4 years ago.
The original source for the data has always been www.olympedia.org, but that site was not publicly available until recently. The Olympedia team is currently working with a new hosting provider to set up a new public site to host their data, but the site is not expected to go public anytime soon. In the meantime, the Olympedia has been opened for the public [3]. It is not yet clear whether Olympedia will be a public database forever, but based on conversations with Olympedia team, it will likely be available for a considerable time.
In the past weeks, there have been email conversations between Wikimedians (particularly User:RonaldH from German Wikipedia, and me), the Olympedia team, and staffers of their new hosting provider. We have received a complete mapping table (Sports-Reference-URL <-> Olympedia ID) that we can directly import to Wikidata based on our well-maintained Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) identifiers—there is a 1:1 correspondence for both sites. I would offer to import the mapping table to Wikidata in case this property will be created.
Wikipedias would also be potentially be interested in this data, as they could relatively easily switch their Sports-Reference.com weblinks to Olympedia.org without having to look up all identifiers manually.
Interested users: @Avilena, Lugnuts, RonaldH, Edgars2007, Zyxw, Rashinseita (and possibly others);
Notified participants of WikiProject Olympics
—MisterSynergy (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've also dropped a note at the Olympic Project on EN WP. Lugnuts (talk) 09:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
DiscussionEdit
- Support (as proposer) —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support Makes sense now SR has gone Lugnuts (talk) 09:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support Best possible solution --RonaldH (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support for both the property and the mass import of IDs, now that SR is gone. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 10:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support -- Steak (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support - a highly important data source for Olympics-related material. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Avilena (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support - Migrant (talk) 20:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support -- Also, the property Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) should be kept since most of those pages remain available via web.archive.org, similar to how there is still a property for databaseOlympics.com athlete ID (P3520). -- Zyxw (talk) 23:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support --- Løken (talk) 23:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support, of course. And the provided mapping also warms up my heart :) That means that SR import and data fixing wasn't meaningless. --Edgars2007 (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support, as it makes perfect sense. Schwede66 (talk) 00:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support -- Slangore (talk) 06:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Rashinseita (talk) 09:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Support It is necessary and indispensable. --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:04, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- Support - it would be a pity not to have this property Robby (talk) 16:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
CommentsEdit
Just for information: This database also includes referees and judges alongside all the other athletes and also the youth olympics athletes aswell. It is also a source for family relation between the includeds that are in family with eachother. So I guess it would be okay to also add the ID's of notables that was refereeing in the olympics. PS. This athlete profile (https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/86236 – Yevgeny Grishin) is mixing two different persons see the death date and the time of his coach participations, so all is not well yet. --Migrant (talk) 19:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, Olympedia has more profiles (~165k) than SportsReference had (133k); the OlympicChannel database, for which we have Olympic Channel athlete ID (P5815) and which is supposed to publish Olympedia data at an undefined time in the future, currently has somewhat over 180k profiles. There is an Olympedia ID for every SportsReference ID, but not vice versa.
I have send a bug report to them regarding Grishin. Seems they have just entered a wrong ID somewhere, as the actual Swedish head coach was Bengt-Åke Gustafsson with ID 86326. —MisterSynergy (talk) 20:23, 3 June 2020 (UTC) - @Lugnuts, MisterSynergy, RonaldH, Sannita, Steak, Sillyfolkboy: @Avilena, Migrant, Zyxw, Løken, Edgars2007, Schwede66: @Slangore, Rashinseita, Kasper2006, Robby: Olympedia athlete ID (P8286) is now available. Pamputt (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- mmm from External links use {{sports links}} still links to SR archive. --Kasper2006 (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Kasper2006: I've added Olympedia links to the Sports Links module on en.wiki. The Sports Reference ones now lead to an archived version. Thanks for pointing it out. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Is not the same thing. The situation will be resolved when all the old SR links inserted in Wikidata willl be link to Olympedia. --Kasper2006 (talk) 02:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Kasper2006: I've added Olympedia links to the Sports Links module on en.wiki. The Sports Reference ones now lead to an archived version. Thanks for pointing it out. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- mmm from External links use {{sports links}} still links to SR archive. --Kasper2006 (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Pamputt: - thanks for setting up the ID. @MisterSynergy: - Looks like this will pass, what would be the timescales to import the IDs? Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 07:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- The import of ~130,000 identifiers is already running and currently roughly 50% complete. It will likely finish today. ---MisterSynergy (talk) 07:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Pamputt: - thanks for setting up the ID. @MisterSynergy: - Looks like this will pass, what would be the timescales to import the IDs? Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 07:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)