Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

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  2. Check if the property was previously proposed or is on the pending list.
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  4. Select the right datatype for the property.
  5. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below and add it in the appropriate section.

Creating the property

  1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
  2. Creation can be done 1 week after the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
  3. See steps when creating properties.

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Sports equipmentEdit

Sports venueEdit

WorldFootball.net stadium IDEdit

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for a association football (soccer) stadium in the WorldFootball.net database
RepresentsWorldfootball.net (Q20773699)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainstadium (Q483110)
Example 1Emirates Stadium (Q163995)emirates-stadium-london
Example 2Volkswagen Arena (Q155603)volkswagen-arena-wolfsburg
Example 3Camp Nou (Q159848)camp-nou-barcelona
Example 4Donbass Arena (Q180479)donbass-arena-donezk
Sourcehttps://www.worldfootball.net/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned usefor 'External links' sections on Wikipedia
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.worldfootball.net/venues/$1
See alsoStadiumDB identifier (P5288), WorldFootball.net team ID (P7287)
Wikidata projectWikiProject Association football

MotivationEdit

Will be useful for stated in (P248). Contains valueable data by various football stadium. --Mitte27 (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

EU-Football.info stadium IDEdit

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for a association football (soccer) stadium in the EU-Football.info database
RepresentsEU-Football.info (Q19428050)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainstadium (Q483110)
Example 1Estadio Santiago Bernabéu (Q164027)108
Example 2Olympiastadion Berlin (Q151374)715
Example 3Wembley Stadium (Q128468)1070
Example 4Donbass Arena (Q180479)1955
Sourcehttps://eu-football.info/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned usefor 'External links' sections on Wikipedia
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://eu-football.info/_venue.php?id=$1
See alsoStadiumDB identifier (P5288), EU-Football.info club ID (P7854)
Wikidata projectWikiProject Association football

MotivationEdit

Will be useful for stated in (P248). Contains valueable data by various football stadium. --Mitte27 (talk) 07:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Sports teamEdit

Sporting eventEdit

National Football Teams.com match IDEdit

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for an association football (soccer) match in the National Football Teams.com database
RepresentsNational-Football-Teams.com (Q18693731)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainassociation football match (Q16466010), exhibition match (Q493386)
Example 12013 Gibraltar v Slovakia football match (Q48804003)9396
Example 2Serbia v Albania (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying) (Q18347005)11397
Example 3UEFA Euro 1996 Final (Q1067311)16176
Example 4Copa América Centenario Final (Q23468814)14526
Sourcehttps://www.national-football-teams.com
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned usefor 'External links' sections on Wikipedia
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.national-football-teams.com/matches/report/$1/-.html
See alsoEU-Football.info match ID (P7492), PlaymakerStats.com match ID (P7493), Transfermarkt match ID (P7455), Soccerway match ID (P7494)
Wikidata projectWikiProject Association football

MotivationEdit

These pages are already often linked to from Wikipedia match articles and we already have properties with players and club IDs of National Football Teams.com . --Mitte27 (talk) 17:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

motorsportstats.com event IDEdit

MotivationEdit

Motorsport statistics by Motorsport Network. Teester (talk) 12:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

@Teester, Thierry Caro, Сидик из ПТ: motorsportstats.com event ID (P8284) is available. Pamputt (talk) 05:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Sports organizationEdit

AthleteEdit

UEFA referee IDEdit

   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for an association football referee at UEFA.com
Representsassociation football referee (Q859528)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainWikidata property for authority control for people (Q19595382), Wikidata property for an identifier (Q19847637), Wikidata property related to association football (Q23661205)
Allowed values[1-9]\d{0,8}
Example 1Alberto Undiano Mallenco (Q310662)277056
Example 2Daniele Orsato (Q602462)1905010
Example 3Cüneyt Çakır (Q321572)283117
Example 4Szymon Marciniak (Q7665089)250019292
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/coaches/coach=$1/profile/index.html
See alsoTransfermarkt referee ID (P3699), EU-Football.info referee ID (P7435), WorldReferee.com referee ID (P7436), WorldFootball.net referee ID (P6314), Soccerbase referee ID (P7465), PlaymakerStats.com referee ID (P6315)

MotivationEdit

Provides useful historical information on referees in all UEFA competitions. S.A. Julio (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

I think having two types of persons in the same property would only add confusion. If someone saw the property UEFA coach ID (P7360) on a referee, they might be inclined to remove it thinking it is not meant for a referee. Also, having separate properties allows for a constraint for only association football referee (Q859528). S.A. Julio (talk) 15:36, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
We have the practice of not making separate properties for the same IDs: Wikidata:Property proposal/BDFutbol manager ID, Wikidata:Property proposal/Soccerway coach ID. We only need to rename the property to UEFA person ID and delete separate coaches property. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 08:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
  •   Oppose like Сидик из ПТУ. we need to rename P7360 and use it for referees too. - yona b (talk) 11:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Canadian Football League player IDEdit

   Ready Create
Descriptionidentifier for a player on the Canadian Football League website
RepresentsCanadian Football League (Q1032175)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainQ19841381
Allowed values\d+
Example 1Boris Bede (Q20666343)160216
Example 2Bo Levi Mitchell (Q4931121)158222
Example 3Brandon Banks (Q2923737)152593
Example 4Andrew Harris (Q4757239)143711
Sourcehttps://www.cfl.ca/players/
Planned useIncremental use
Number of IDs in sourceProbably a few hundreds
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.cfl.ca/players/wd/$1/

MotivationEdit

John Vandenberg (talk) 04:17, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Bill william compton (talkcontribslogs)
--►Cekli829 23:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
VicVal (talk) 17:14, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
AmaryllisGardener talk 19:03, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Tubezlob (🙋) 16:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 17:24, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Jmmuguerza (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
MisterSynergy
Xaris333
Migrant
Mad_melone
Сидик из ПТУ
Laszaroh

  Notified participants of WikiProject Sport results. Thierry Caro Fralambert Amqui Antoine2711 (talk) Helmoony joplam QultureQc Jura YanikB Mykola Swarnyk Jimj_wpg Deror avi

  Notified participants of WikiProject Canada.

-- English -- To improve our coverage of professional Canadian football players. It must be noted that two difficulties were encountered while doing research for this proposal:

  • a search for a player name on the Players page on the CFL website (https://www.cfl.ca/players/) links to the player's page on his team's website. Depending on the team, the ID part of the URL may be the same that the page on the cfl.ca domain, or it may be different. Examples:
  • retired players are not present on the Players page. I don't know what happens to the player page itself ; is it deleted or kept ?

-- Français-- Pour améliorer la documentation des joueurs professionnels de football canadien. À noter que les particularités suivantes ont été rencontrées lors des recherches pour faire cette demande:

  • La recherche d'un joueur sur la page principale des joueurs de la LCF (https://www.cfl.ca/players/) nous amène sur la page du joueur sur le site de son équipe. Selon l'équipe en question, la partie identifiant de l'URL peut être pareille ou différente que celle de la page sur le domaine cfl.ca (ou lcf.ca). Exemples:
  • Les joueurs à la retraite ne sont plus présents sur la page principale des joueurs (https://www.cfl.ca/players/). J'ignore ce qui arrive avec leur page; est-ell supprimée ou conservée ?

Cortomaltais (talk) 18:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  •   Support. I have modified the formatter URL to make IDs entirely numerical. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Olympedia identifierEdit

Descriptionidentifier for an athlete at www.olympedia.org
RepresentsOlympedia athlete database (Q95606922)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5) with possibly very few exceptions (<5)
Allowed values[1-9]\d{0,6}
Example 1Laura Dahlmeier (Q4980869)127804
Example 2Steve Redgrave (Q52679)37440
Example 3Miriam Welte (Q65733)125466
Sourcehttps://www.olympedia.org/athletes
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar][de][en][es][fr][he][it][ja][ko][nl][pl][pt][ru][sv][vi][zh][commons][species][wd].
Planned useimport ~130k values based on a mapping table sent by the Olympedia team (User:MisterSynergy)
Number of IDs in source164962 (2020-05-27)
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://www.olympedia.org/athletes/$1
See alsoSports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) in particular, but also International Olympic Committee athlete ID (P3171), databaseOlympics.com athlete ID (P3520), TheSports.org athlete ID (P4391), and Olympic Channel athlete ID (P5815)

MotivationEdit

In the past, the database at www.sports-reference.com/olympics has been pretty much the gold standard of Olympic participation data in all Wikimedia projects. We have Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) for this site, but recently the data was removed from the Sports-Reference.com servers. This had been announced to happen eventually almost 4 years ago.

The original source for the data has always been www.olympedia.org, but that site was not publicly available until recently. The Olympedia team is currently working with a new hosting provider to set up a new public site to host their data, but the site is not expected to go public anytime soon. In the meantime, the Olympedia has been opened for the public [3]. It is not yet clear whether Olympedia will be a public database forever, but based on conversations with Olympedia team, it will likely be available for a considerable time.

In the past weeks, there have been email conversations between Wikimedians (particularly User:RonaldH from German Wikipedia, and me), the Olympedia team, and staffers of their new hosting provider. We have received a complete mapping table (Sports-Reference-URL <-> Olympedia ID) that we can directly import to Wikidata based on our well-maintained Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) identifiers—there is a 1:1 correspondence for both sites. I would offer to import the mapping table to Wikidata in case this property will be created.

Wikipedias would also be potentially be interested in this data, as they could relatively easily switch their Sports-Reference.com weblinks to Olympedia.org without having to look up all identifiers manually.

Interested users: @Avilena, Lugnuts, RonaldH, Edgars2007, Zyxw, Rashinseita (and possibly others); AmaryllisGardener
Edgars2007
Lymantria
Gabbg82
MisterSynergy
Tubezlob
B20180
Rahmanuddin
FocalPoint
Sannita
Habstinat
&beer&love
Sillyfolkboy
Migrant
Grottem
OhKayeSierra
Lugnuts


  Notified participants of WikiProject Olympics

MisterSynergy (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I've also dropped a note at the Olympic Project on EN WP. Lugnuts (talk) 09:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  •   Support (as proposer) —MisterSynergy (talk) 09:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Makes sense now SR has gone Lugnuts (talk) 09:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Best possible solution --RonaldH (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support for both the property and the mass import of IDs, now that SR is gone. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 10:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support -- Steak (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support - a highly important data source for Olympics-related material. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support --Avilena (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support - Migrant (talk) 20:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support -- Also, the property Sports-Reference.com Olympic athlete ID (P1447) should be kept since most of those pages remain available via web.archive.org, similar to how there is still a property for databaseOlympics.com athlete ID (P3520). -- Zyxw (talk) 23:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support --- Løken (talk) 23:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support, of course. And the provided mapping also warms up my heart :) That means that SR import and data fixing wasn't meaningless. --Edgars2007 (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support, as it makes perfect sense. Schwede66 (talk) 00:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support -- Slangore (talk) 06:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support --Rashinseita (talk) 09:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support It is necessary and indispensable. --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:04, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support - it would be a pity not to have this property Robby (talk) 16:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

Just for information: This database also includes referees and judges alongside all the other athletes and also the youth olympics athletes aswell. It is also a source for family relation between the includeds that are in family with eachother. So I guess it would be okay to also add the ID's of notables that was refereeing in the olympics. PS. This athlete profile (https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/86236 – Yevgeny Grishin) is mixing two different persons see the death date and the time of his coach participations, so all is not well yet. --Migrant (talk) 19:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Olympedia has more profiles (~165k) than SportsReference had (133k); the OlympicChannel database, for which we have Olympic Channel athlete ID (P5815) and which is supposed to publish Olympedia data at an undefined time in the future, currently has somewhat over 180k profiles. There is an Olympedia ID for every SportsReference ID, but not vice versa.
I have send a bug report to them regarding Grishin. Seems they have just entered a wrong ID somewhere, as the actual Swedish head coach was Bengt-Åke Gustafsson with ID 86326. —MisterSynergy (talk) 20:23, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
@Lugnuts, MisterSynergy, RonaldH, Sannita, Steak, Sillyfolkboy: @Avilena, Migrant, Zyxw, Løken, Edgars2007, Schwede66: @Slangore, Rashinseita, Kasper2006, Robby: Olympedia athlete ID (P8286) is now available. Pamputt (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
mmm from External links use {{sports links}} still links to SR archive. --Kasper2006 (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
@Kasper2006: I've added Olympedia links to the Sports Links module on en.wiki. The Sports Reference ones now lead to an archived version. Thanks for pointing it out. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Is not the same thing. The situation will be resolved when all the old SR links inserted in Wikidata willl be link to Olympedia. --Kasper2006 (talk) 02:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
@Pamputt: - thanks for setting up the ID. @MisterSynergy: - Looks like this will pass, what would be the timescales to import the IDs? Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 07:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
The import of ~130,000 identifiers is already running and currently roughly 50% complete. It will likely finish today. ---MisterSynergy (talk) 07:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Superb! Thanks for your work on this. Lugnuts (talk) 09:31, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

CoachEdit