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Aviation

see also: WikiProject Aviation

Maritime transport

see also: WikiProject Ships

rigging

   Under discussion

Description	type of rigging of a sailing boat or ship
Represents	Rigging (Q1634158)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"Ship type" in en:template:Infobox ship characteristics
Domain	sailing ship (Q170483), sailboat (Q1075310)
Allowed values	full-rigged ship (Q1581130), barque (Q216057), sloop-of-war (Q928235), brigantine (Q189418), cutter (Q683363), Catboat (Q1050011) …
Example 1	Balclutha (Q804713) → full-rigged ship (Q1581130)
Example 2	Rickmer Rickmers (Q479965) → barque (Q216057)
Example 3	Alinghi 5 (Q681813) → sloop (Q210223)
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)

Motivation

To classify sailing ships or boats MB-one (talk) 12:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

Feel free to add yourself to this list. User:Danrok Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) Rama Christian Ferrer Nortix08 Andrawaag

Notified participants of WikiProject Ships

•  Support David (talk) 06:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
•  Support Makes perfect sense. Scs (talk) 22:06, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose With current specification. full-rigged ship (Q1581130) is a ship class and can simply be used as subclass. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:57, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Is there a general principle to guide whether it's better to have finer-grained properties, or finer-grained classes and subclasses? A similar question has come up at Project chat#Items for multi-intersection. Scs (talk) 12:13, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

•  Support Cwf97 (talk) 17:33, 19 June 2019 (EST)
•  Oppose the values proposed for this property are all "types of ship", which should be used with instance of (P31) (and mostly are, for the given examples). If there were items for the "rigging" itself that was somehow independent of ship type maybe this would make sense, but "ship type" and "rigging", at least for sailing ships, seem to be closely tied so I don't think there is a case for this property at all right now. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment @MB-one: could you fix the samples per comment by Arthur? Obviously, warship can't be the p31 for Alinghi 5 (Q681813). --- Jura 21:40, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Jura: you are absolutely right. Fixed it. --MB-one (talk) 07:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @MB-one: I think what he means is that you should have values that are items that describe only the rigging not a type of ship with that rigging. --- Jura 08:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Support Usefull and much more specific than instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279). /ℇsquilo 16:09, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
• @MB-one, Scs, Esquilo, Cwf97: I think the items for types of rigging would still need to be made/updated above. Alternatively, how about calling this w:sail plan? --- Jura 18:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  Trying to modulate a whole sail-plan in one wikidata property is not possible i think, but the gallery under the section "Types of sailing vessels" provides a good base for a "allowed values" list. /ℇsquilo 19:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to add yourself to this list. User:Danrok Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) Rama Christian Ferrer Nortix08 Andrawaag

Notified participants of WikiProject Ships --Micru (talk) 21:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC) Tobias1984 (talk) TomT0m ^(talk) Genewiki123 ^(talk) Emw (talk) 03:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC) —Ruud 16:15, 9 December 2014 (UTC) Emitraka (talk) 14:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC) Bovlb (talk) 19:10, 21 October 2015 (UTC) Peter F. Patel-Schneider (talk) 22:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC) ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC) --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 20:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC) --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 22:00, 27 February 2016 (UTC) --Lechatpito (talk) --Andrawaag (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC) --ChristianKl (talk) 16:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC) --Cmungall Cmungall (talk) 13:49, 8 July 2016 (UTC) Cord Wiljes (talk) 16:53, 28 September 2016 (UTC) DavRosen (talk) 23:07, 15 February 2017 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 07:01, 24 February 2017 (UTC) Pintoch (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2017 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2017 (UTC) YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2017 (UTC) PKM (talk) 00:24, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Fractaler (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2017 (UTC) Andreasmperu Diana de la Iglesia Jsamwrites (talk) Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:39, 24 August 2017 (UTC) Alessandro Piscopo (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2017 (UTC) Ptolusque (.-- .. -.- ..) 01:47, 14 September 2017 (UTC) Gamaliel (talk) --Horcrux92 (talk) 11:19, 12 November 2017 (UTC) MartinPoulter (talk) Bamyers99 (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2018 (UTC) Malore (talk) Wurstbruch (talk) 22:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC) Dcflyer (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2018 (UTC) Ettorerizza (talk) 11:00, 26 September 2018 (UTC) Ninokeys (talk) 00:05, 5 October 2018 (UTC) Buccalon (talk) 14:08, 10 October 2018 (UTC) Jneubert (talk) 06:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC) Yair rand (talk) 00:16, 24 October 2018 (UTC) Tris T7 (talk) ElanHR (talk) 22:05, 26 December 2018 (UTC) linuxo Gq86 Gabrielaltay Liamjamesperritt (talk) 08:44, 21 June 2019 (UTC) ZI Jony Ivanhercaz (Talk) 11:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC) Gaurav (talk) 22:39, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Meejies (talk) 04:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC) SilentSpike (talk)

Notified participants of WikiProject Ontology Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

•  Comment See Help:Basic membership properties. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:56, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

 Oppose This is a classification property. Mark any possible values as instance of (P31) if needed, this makes extra easy to find this in queries. See User:TomT0m/Classification for an introduction on classification. As such, regular tools for class trees are easily usable in any case. author  TomT0m / talk page 08:28, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Railway

see also: WikiProject Railways

Spaceflight

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