Wikidata:Property proposal/WO2 Thesaurus ID
Camps in WW2 Thesaurus ID edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | Camps in WW2 Thesaurus ID |
|---|---|
| Represents | Camp List (Q107530620) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | Places (e.g. Westerbork Transit Camp (Q323420) ) |
| Allowed values | \d+ |
| Example 1 | Westerbork Transit Camp (Q323420) → 4869 |
| Example 2 | Auschwitz (Q7341) → 3653 |
| Example 3 | Sobibór Extermination Camp (Q152658) → 4855 |
| Source | https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus.html |
| Planned use | The WW2 thesaurus includes concepts, corporations, events, locations and camps related to the second World War We will start matching the most unambiguous category of terms (i.e. the transit and concentration camps) from WW2 Thesaurus to Wikidata using OpenRefine and Quickstatements. We will potentially add other lists in the future. |
| Number of IDs in source | Roughly 700 camps, of a total of 15.150 identifiers in the thesaurus as a whole. |
| Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) (eventually complete) |
| Formatter URL | https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus/kampen/$1 |
| Robot and gadget jobs | none |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Camp List (Q107530620) |
Motivation edit
The WW2 Thesaurus is maintained by NIOD, The Institute for War, Holocaust and Genocide Studies. As an authority source it adds valuable validation to terms related to WW2 on Wikidata and in return, allows users of the WW2 Thesaurus to retrieve the enriched structured data that Wikidata concepts might contain. 85jesse (talk) 09:55, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Discussion edit
Support --JlizzyJ (talk) 10:56, 21 June 2022 (UTC)- Support --85jesse (talk) 11:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Support Especially camps in former Dutch Indies needs more attention in Wikidata. And I think in the long run we should distinguish camp organisations vs sites. Currently proposal says 'always incomplete' but as those camps are relevant for events and persons I think we could complete this in Wikidata. --Hannolans (talk) 10:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Comment The value for "represents" was not correct. It should be the item for the WW2 Thesaurus {Q|Q107530575}}. That would also be the correct "applicable 'stated in' value" value as well. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 06:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC)- Comment The way this property is formatted, it is specifically for camps (see formatter URL), but the thesaurus itself is broader than just concentration camps. If this is intended only for camps, then the name should be changed. If it is meant to provide links to any term in the thesaurus, then the name is fine, but the formatter URL and examples need to be broader to accommodate other kinds of concepts. For example: Modernisme: https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus/1828; Landdagen: https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus/3587; Kuikhorne: https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus/locations/14037; Albanese strijdkrachten: https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus/corporaties/4439, Fusillade bij Herbaijum: https://data.niod.nl/WO2_Thesaurus/events/10896, etc. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 07:02, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Thank you UWashPrincipalCataloger for your feedback. I have in the end decided to change the name of this property and we will add additional properties for other 'concept schemes' from the WW2 thesaurus. Best. 85jesse (talk) 06:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @85jesse, JlizzyJ, Hannolans:
Done as WW2 Thesaurus Camp List ID (P10865). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 15:34, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
