Wikidata:Property proposal/announced at

announced at

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Done: announced at (P9731) (Talk and documentation)

Description	event at which product or creative work was announced
Data type	Item
Domain	instance or subclass of: creative work (Q17537576) (examples: video game, software); operating system (Q9135); service (Q7406919); product model (Q10929058); model series (Q811701) + additional types may be added in the future (see also example).
Allowed values	instance or subclass of: event (Q1656682) (examples: convention, online-event etc.); award ceremony (Q4504495); trade fair (Q57305); annual event (Q11483816) (see also example).
Example 1	The Last of Us Part II (Q27950674)announcement date (P6949)3 December 2016announced atPlayStation Experience 2016 (Q107273712)
Example 2	Xbox Series X (Q64513817)announcement date (P6949)12 December 2019announced atThe Game Awards 2019 (Q70329347)
Example 3	Google Stadia (Q60309635)announcement date (P6949)19 March 2019announced atGame Developers Conference 2019 (Q62127933)
Planned use	It's planned to be used only as a qualifier to indicate the event during which creative work or product was announced.
See also	announcement date (P6949)
Wikidata project	WikiProject Video games (Q8485882)

Motivation

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Since there is no suitable qualifier to indicate the event at which the product or creative work was announced, I thought it would be better to make a separate one. This qualifier is to announcement date (P6949) property. See some examples here above and full list below and let me know what you think.

Example 1: The Last of Us Part II (Q27950674)

announcement date	3 December 2016 edit announced at PlayStation Experience 2016 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 2: Until Dawn (Q7897632)

announcement date	14 August 2012 edit announced at Gamescom 2012 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 3: The Callisto Protocol (Q104172915)

announcement date	10 December 2020 edit announced at The Game Awards 2020 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 4: Death Stranding (Q24666782)

announcement date	13 June 2016 edit announced at Electronic Entertainment Expo 2016 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 5: Horizon Forbidden West (Q96216443)

announcement date	11 June 2020 edit announced at The Future of Gaming Show 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 6: Xbox Series X (Q64513817)

announcement date	12 December 2019 edit announced at The Game Awards 2019 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 7: iOS 15 (Q107139673)

announcement date	7 June 2021 edit announced at WWDC 2021 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 8: Google Stadia (Q60309635)

announcement date	19 March 2019 edit announced at Game Developers Conference 2019 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 9: Samsung Galaxy S9 (Q50102300)

announcement date	25 February 2018 edit announced at Mobile World Congress 2018 0 references add reference
		add value

Example 10: Windows 11 (Q107269746)

announcement date	24 June 2021 edit announced at 2021 Microsoft Windows Event 0 references add reference
		add value

Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 00:00, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support This is useful! AntisocialRyan (talk) 00:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
•  Support —Dexxor (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment Thanks Kirilloparma for the proposal. I have needed to model the location of announcement in the past too (I think I sometimes used location (P276) but that does not look good). I don’t know whehter we need a dedicated property, but so far I could never come up with another solution either with existing properties − so unless someone else can come up with an alternative modeling solution, I would  Support this. Jean-Fred (talk) 11:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oh, there is presented in (P5072) ? Not a great fit but could work I guess? Jean-Fred (talk) 11:58, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
    • @Kirilloparma: What do you think of presented in (P5072) ? Jean-Fred (talk) 22:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: Unfortunately this property is not suitable for two reasons:

1. It seems like that the property was created with completely different intentions and there is still confusion about the domain and target value (see discussion). As far as I understand, we are mainly talking about the events related to film industry (Q1415395) or something like that. The name of the property itself is vague, therefore it is impossible to understand what it actually means + terms announced and presented is not quite similar.
2. From the proposal discussion it follows that the property is intended to be used as main value, so it's unlikely that it can be used as a qualifier, I guess. The property that I propose, on the contrary, is intended to be used only as a qualifier for the announcement date (P6949) property. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 22:49, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer, you have convinced me :)

(I think presented in (P5072) could be used on games, but that is orthogonal to the announcement − eg a game announced at E3 2012, and subsequently presented at E32013, TGS 2013 etc.) Jean-Fred (talk) 08:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

•  Support Jean-Fred (talk) 08:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
•  Support this is a good idea! :) Nicereddy (talk) 14:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
• Looks good to me. BrokenSegue (talk) 20:12, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

@Kirilloparma, AntisocialRyan, Dexxor, Jean-Frédéric, Nicereddy, BrokenSegue:  Done announced at (P9731) Pamputt (talk) 22:13, 11 July 2021 (UTC)