Wikidata:Property proposal/number of shows

number of shows edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Event

Done: number of representations (P5027) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number of shows (including the premiere) of a concert tour or theatrical production
Represents	show (Q15116915)
Data type	Quantity
Template parameter	en:template:Infobox concert tour; fr:template:Infobox Musique (tournée); it:template:Tour musicale
Domain	concert tour (Q1573906), performing arts production (Q43099500)
Allowed values	$n\in \mathbb {N}$
Allowed units	none
Example	Bad World Tour (Q44508) → 123; Football, Football (Q5465777) → 15; Andrea Chénier (Q47001667) → 9
See also	Wikidata:Property proposal/number of representations

Motivation

This property could be used for events such as concert tours and theatrical productions in general (operas, ballets, plays...). Αππο (talk) 19:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support David (talk) 16:23, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Cultural events

Notified participants of WikiProject Cultural venues

Notified participants of WikiProject Performing arts

Support for concert tours as items for them exist, Oppose for theatrical productions (unless you wish to argue that each run of a particular play in a particular place deserves its own item). Mahir256 (talk) 07:53, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Theatre

Support Merge with Wikidata:Property proposal/number of representations --Beat Estermann (talk) 08:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Makes sense. I would also ask if this could be for sports seasons/articles about events in a specific year (like: Q28129237, Q28128292, Q29101122). Number of matches played doesn't suit those. I was looking to propose number of events or number of shows property myself and found this.ShadessKB (talk) 17:42, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Mahir256, Beat Estermann, ShadessKB, Αππο: Done: number of representations (P5027). − Pintoch (talk) 08:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Pintoch:Thanks for making it. Any chance this could be extended to covering sports? Or I guess any well definable number of events/shows? A year in UFC as an example (Q28128292). The wikipedia page lists total events at 39 for them that year. There is currently no property to use for listing something like that, as far as I know. I don't really see any reason for making another property just for sports when this could be used. But I also don't want to go and edit it on my own without asking others if it makes sense! :) ShadessKB (talk) 11:14, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It makes sense to make this as general as it can be, but I am not quite sure about things like 2016 in Kunlun Fight (Q28129237) - it's not clear to me that the various games would be all "representations" of the same sort of event (arguably the matches can be quite different, belong to various leagues, and so on)… But I am not familiar with these domains. This is a good place to discuss that (feel free to ping other editors who commented in this discussion). − Pintoch (talk) 11:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I guess it would work for anything where we have an item for an "event type" and want to indicate the number of single events that took place. The present terminology does however refer more to the performing arts than to sports. In fact, in the field of theatre, the "event type" is considered to be a work of art in its own right, which means that credits are given to the people involved in the creation of the "event type". I believe that in most fields of sport you would think quite differently about these things and therefore probably also model them differently. --Beat Estermann (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]