Wikidata:Property proposal/public domain date
public domain date edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | date the item enters into the public domain |
|---|---|
| Data type | Point in time |
| Domain | creative work (Q17537576) |
| Allowed values | date with mandatory qualifier: applies to jurisdiction (P1001) |
| Example | |
| Planned use | Information about the public domain status |
| See also | public domain (Q19652) and Public Domain Day (Q2917032) |
- Motivation
Every creative work enters the public domain sooner or later. Some immediately, some after 70 years the author has died, some after 70 years of publication. For postume work, unpublished works, translated books, music and movies it is even more complex. For people who want to re-use creative works, it is relevant information when and if the work is in the public domain. With qualifiers we could even mark several dates for several jurisdictions or part of the work and link as a source to the legislation or articles. --Hannolans (talk) 19:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support But I think the usage of a qualifier with the jurisdiction should be mandatory. ChristianKl (talk) 09:54, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- We could also have as default the public domain date of the country of origin (rule of the shorter term applies for most other countries). Most important exception we could add with a qualifier would be the US as the rule of the shorter term doesn't apply --Hannolans (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2017 (UTC).
- Support. I agree the jurisdiction qualifier should be mandatory. Thryduulf (talk) 21:42, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- applies to jurisdiction (P1001) is the relevant property for such a qualifier I think. Thryduulf (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support let's see how this is going to work out. Multichill (talk) 19:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support - with the jurisdictional qualifier point as others have mentioned. Wittylama (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Mtmlan84 (talk) 15:13, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Hannolans: There are only 6 days between the 16th and the 22th. Please don't mark properties as ready before the 7 days are over. ChristianKl (talk) 18:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry, miscalculated, and yes, now it's 7 days :) --Hannolans (talk) 23:28, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Mtmlan84, Hannolans, Thryduulf:
Done ChristianKl (talk) 08:17, 24 April 2017 (UTC) - Support Except that the example of the European Union is not fitting. 'The Achterhuis' is not PD across the EU. The EU does not have a harmonised term of protection. See a project I worked on with this exact example at annefrank.centrumcyfrowe.pl. The EU should not be used as a jurisdiction here. --Martsniez (talk) 08:25, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- in Commons 'European Union' is used in some PD-templates, likewise 'countries under Berne-convention', but you're right, copyright laws are national laws in the EU, not European laws and every country can have an exception. So we should use here always states as a jurisdiction --Hannolans (talk) 08:55, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've added this property to Het achterhuis (Q14624856) for US and the Netherlands with sources. probably you can add the Polish situation? --Hannolans (talk) 09:02, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- I corrected the Netherlands. Version C of Anne Frank's diary (the book 'Het Achterhuis'), is generally considered a work of co-authorship. Otto Frank being the editor. This means that it won't be in the public domain until 2051 in the Netherlands as Otto Frank died in 1980. Using this book as an example is generally a bad idea. Better to use works of Mondriaan. Which according to an opinion I wrote is also controversial for Commons, albeit being clearer in authorship. Finally, I changed the jurisdiction. The same copyright act of the Netherlands (country) does not apply for the larger kingdom. --Martsniez (talk) 10:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
