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Wikidata:Property proposal/street number in Austria

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Austrian Street ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Place

DescriptionA number for all named and inhabited streets within settlements. In small settlements without named streets, the number represents the settlement itself.
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameterIt is planned to use this property in infoboxes. Now the proposed property is sometimes used in templates, see de:Göstling (Gemeinde Aschbach-Markt), line "Am 1. April 2020 umfasste das Dorf 10 Gebäude." ("On April 1st, 2020, the village consisted of 10 houses.") The number of houses is delivered with a template using the proposed property.
Allowed valuesbetween 000001 and 999999
Allowed units\d{6}
Example 1Graben (Q699937) → 901563 (street in Vienna)
Example 2Getreidegasse (Q688477) → 031215 (street in Salzburg)
Example 3Ludwigsthal (Q81926111) → 002716 (hamlet of Gmünd)
Example 4Eugenia (Q109079131) → 013346 (quarter of Schrems)
Example 5Göstling (Q54324014) → 056915 (village of Aschbach-Markt)
Example 6Klein Stillfried (Q81942427) → 060109 (hamlet of Angern an der March)
Example 7Kolonie Backhausen (Q81929048) → 062547 (settlement of Hoheneich)
Example 8Garmanns (Q66816748) → 079348 (also locality and cadastral community. Street ID describes the village)
Example 9Bernau (Q106087563) → 092395 (hamlet of Bad Traunstein)
Example 10Rudolz (Q66981147) → 081223 (cadastral community, locality and village - but there are no named streets)
SourceDownload a zip from [1], there is a file STRASSE.CSV inside, the first number of each line is the street ID.
Planned useuse this property for small settlements (about 5000 items) / use this property for streets (about 130.000 items) is possible, but only planned in exceptional cases e.g. for en:Graben, Vienna
Number of IDs in sourceabout 135.000, between 000001 and 999999
See also

Motivation edit

The Straßenkennziffer (Austrian Street ID) is the official ID for small settlements (hamlets, despersed settlements ... ) and streets. It is administrated by "Statistik Austria" and by "BEV", see (en:Statistik Austria and en:Bundesamt für Eich- und Vermessungswesen) I will use it as identifier to add statistical data to items. Maincomb (talk) 15:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

  Support --Maincomb (talk) 15:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest "Street ID (Austria)" or "Austrian Street ID" instead of Straßenkennziffer. --Maincomb (talk) 17:44, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your proposal, so it's generally expected that you'd update it. --- Jura 11:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject Austria --- Jura 11:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Maincomb, Jura1, Emu, Arbnos:   Done Austrian Street ID (P10198) Pamputt (talk) 16:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pamputt: the property you created doesn't seem to match the proposal. Please explain why you changed label and description from the proposal --- Jura 09:33, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My first suggestion was "street number in Austria" but then I thougt "Austrian Street ID" would be better. --Maincomb (talk) 09:54, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
do not hesitate to modify by yourself. Pamputt (talk) 10:32, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pamputt: the creation is meant to match the consensus you assessed. I don't want to give the impression I changed it from that. Can you explain the difference between the proposal above and your creation? --- Jura 10:45, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pamputt: The main usage will be for small settlements because in small settlements without named streets, the number represents the settlement itself. I did this in Kolonie Backhausen (Q81929048) (=small settlement) an got an exclamation mark. And I will use this in the language "German" and in de:WP. There is no at:WP because "Austrian German" is a variety of Standard German and only used in some formal situations. --Maincomb (talk) 10:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Maincomb: I think I addressed all the problem you mentionned. About the language, I think it makes sense to ask to fill a label in Austrian German because this is the variety of the language that is spoken in Austria. That's said, I also added "standard" German. Pamputt (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for creating this. I expanded one of the sample items: Getreidegasse in Salzburg --- Jura 21:43, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
“The main usage will be for small settlements because in small settlements without named streets, the number represents the settlement itself.” No, there is no consensus for this. See above. Emu (talk) 23:57, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"use this property for streets (about 130.000 items) is possible, but only planned in exceptional cases" - my intention was to use this property in existing items (like Getreidegasse (Q688477)) but there should not be created 130.000 new items because of this property. --Maincomb (talk) 11:46, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"planned use" is the use by the proposer. One is obviously free to apply it to other suitable items. I just created a few for Salzburg, where Wikidata already had the street address. --- Jura 20:30, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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