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Wikidata:Property proposal/time of the day

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time of the day edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done
Descriptiontime of the day in hours and decimals (1h15' pm > 13.25). Can be used as qualifier or statement. Add another qualifier to specify timezone, if not local time.
Data typeQuantity
ExampleAugust 2016 Central Italy earthquake (Q26689701) → point in time (P585) 24 August 2016 qualifier "time of day": 01.69166666667
Motivation

Currently, there is no other way to specify this. If ever a better solution becomes available, the data could be converted.
--- Jura 22:42, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion
  Comment I just created a QuickStatement script to create the items about minutes : User:TomT0m/minutes. I'd like a review before batch creating it and taking ideas about what could be added. author  TomT0m / talk page 14:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@TomT0m: I like the idea. My comments are, it is strange in English to write "12h00 AM", use of "h" like that is more of a French thing. Secondly, many English speakers, including myself, would actually prefer to use 24 hour time (e.g. "00:00" not "12:00 AM"). I suggest that ISO 8601 (Q50101) is a valid format in all languages (English, French, whatever), hence the labels in both English and French should be "00:00" through "23:59". SJK (talk) 08:43, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also I am a bit confused by "P31 Q27972125 P279 Q7727". If type of daytime minute (Q27972125) is meant to represent "minute of the day", better just call it that, and make it a subclass of minute (Q7727). Then all your script needs is "P31 Q27972125", rather than both a P31 and a P279 on every item. SJK (talk) 08:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


  Not done No consensus reached.--Micru (talk) 07:47, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hour and minutes number edit

As a follows up to the previous proposition of using item datatype to represent a pair (minute, second) in a day, I'd like to add two property proposal that aims to describe those items : "minute number in the hour" and "hour number in the day".

hour number in the day

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done
Descriptionthe number of the hour in the usual 24h day. from 0 for the midnight hour to 23 for the hour before midnight
Data typeQuantity
DomainQ27972125
Allowed values[0, 23]
Allowed unitsnone
Example
⟨ 1h23 ⟩ number of hour in day Search ⟨  1 ⟩
⟨ 1h23 PM ⟩ number of hour in day Search ⟨  13 ⟩
Robot and gadget jobswill be automatically filled
minute number in the hour

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done
Descriptionthe number of a minute in a minute of the day item. From 0 to 59 (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
Data typeQuantity
DomainQ27972125
Allowed values[0, 59]
Example
⟨ 1h23 ⟩ number of minute in the hour in day Search ⟨  23 ⟩
⟨ 1h23 PM ⟩ number of number of minute in the hour Search ⟨  23 ⟩
Robot and gadget jobswill be automatically filled

@Jura1, Thierry Caro, ChristianKl: author  TomT0m / talk page 18:04, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This looks better, but I would prefer a native implementation that adds a new datatype.   Weak support ChristianKl (talk) 21:01, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose per ChristianKl's suggestion. ~★ nmaia d 12:42, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ChristianKl, NMaia: Easier to implement and easily migrate later. But as in my previous comment there is chances that an extension of the "time" datatype will only allow to specify more precise timestamp, and not stuffs like "noon hour is 12:00" that recurs other time. author  TomT0m / talk page 19:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Not very keen on this, would much rather see a native data type for it. Furthermore, in the absence of a native data type, would rather see a single property of string data type with a regex e.g. ([01][0-9]|2[0-3])(:[0-5][0-9])? (but, can the Wikibase software enforce the regex at data entry time??? And display some hint text to the editor explaining the expected format, since most people can't be expected to understand regexes?). SJK (talk) 08:38, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, I like better your other proposal, of a single property, with Item as a datatype, and then create 3600 items, one for every minute of the day. That is probably even better than a string. SJK (talk) 08:46, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    However if we need to specify seconds we need 86400+1400=87800 items.--GZWDer (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I thought a bit about this issue and given that timezones make this even more complicated, I oppose this proposal. I think we really need a proper native datatype for this. ChristianKl (talk) 12:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]


  Not done No support.--Micru (talk) 07:46, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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