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Wikidata:Property proposal/volume title

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Volume title edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

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Descriptionpublished name of a volume, that is part of a multivolume edition
Representstitle (Q783521)
Data typeMonolingual text
Domainvolume (Q1238720)
Example 1United Nations peacekeeping in the Congo: 1960-1964; an analysis of political, executive and military control. Volume 1. Summary and conclusions (Q115926177)volume titleSummary and conclusions
Example 2Orthodox Theological Encyclopedia. Volume 2, 1901 (Q43197182)volume titleАрхеология — Бюхнер
Example 3Red Data Book of Russia, volume "Animals" (2nd edition) (Q115189432)volume titleЖивотные
Planned useFix items that have volume title in the title (P1476) property to make them usable in Cite Q and similar templates
See alsotitle (P1476), volume (P478)
Wikidata projectWikiProject Books (Q8487081)

Motivation edit

Cite Q and similar templates expect that title (P1476) property would be the name of multivolume edition. Although many multivolume works doesn't have volume names and have only volume numbers, so volume name in such cases would contain the same name as the multivolume work name. Storing volume title in the title (P1476) property makes confusion with items that have multivolume title in the title (P1476) property.

Discussion edit

Would not subtitle (P1680) work for this? Solidest (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. It is related to the title (P1476) property and must be used in the same context. See United Nations peacekeeping in the Congo: 1960-1964; an analysis of political, executive and military control. Volume 1. Summary and conclusions (Q115926177), for example. And also see comparison of common patterns: Wikidata talk:WikiProject Books#Volume title. D6194c-1cc (talk) 09:58, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment not in favour Typically you should be citing the parent work, and citing a volume number as a qualifier, as has been done for thousands of works. Works perfectly well for "cite Q". Citing an item for a specific volume seems unnecessary.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We do have subject named as (P1810) which could be used, and then train "cite Q" to read that if present, or pushed.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This property might be misleading. Is it whole work name or just volume name? D6194c-1cc (talk) 07:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I found another problem. Issues have titles, too, and their structure is the same as that for volumes. So I probably will use object named as (P1932) for the volume/issue number and subject named as (P1810) for the volume/issue title. But they can be only used as qualifiers. So it's rather temporary solution, since those properties can be used only as qualifiers. D6194c-1cc (talk) 07:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Volume has specific google books id, URL (if it is in open access), ISBN, pages count and other properties that can be used by citing template. Citing whole multivolume edition is not always convenient. Although Red Data Book of Russia, volume "Animals" (2nd edition) (Q115189432) is an example of book that doesn't have multivolume edition. This volume published independently from other one and have no volume number. D6194c-1cc (talk) 07:39, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, similar discussion in en:Zotero forum: [1]. D6194c-1cc (talk) 09:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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