Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/GretaHeng18bot
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Not done, no progress since March. Feel free to re-open this if work resumes. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
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Operator: Gretaheng18 (talk • contribs • logs)
Task/s: The bot will create San Diego State University faculty profiles and create items for departments and colleges on Wikidata. It will also create relationships among SDSU colleges, departments, and faculty.
Code: Haven't established one for this project but will update it here: https://github.com/gretaheng
Function details: This bot is mainly used on the library faculty profile project. At here in Wikidata, it is used to create new items and add links of the new and existing SDSU faculty, departments, and colleges. --GretaHeng18bot (talk) 18:37, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support if by faculty you mean working groups or something other than a person that can be linked to.--So9q (talk) 14:31, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Prahlad (tell me all about it / private venue) (Please
{{ping}}me) 15:17, 15 February 2022 (UTC) - Hi @So9q. I am working on creating wikidata items for departments, faculty (college/school), and faculty (professors) and will link them together (people link to the departments, departments link to the college). Now, I finished departments and faculty (college/school) part and am working on the data model for faculty (professors). Our library is collecting faculty's ORCID ID and I will add ORCID ID for faculty on wikidata once we have their ORCID ID. There are also some faculty works (books/papers) on wikidata that are not created by my institution. We'd like to change the creator information from string to wikidata number in the future. Hope this makes sense. GretaHeng18bot (talk) 19:08, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Are random faculty members notable? I think only in the case they have published at least one scientific work. I hope that Wikidata will get full coverage of all the world’s scientific publications, and I would love to have more authors with orcid in WD, but only if they actually published something. Could you check if they published anything before importing?—So9q (talk) 03:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the concern. I think most of them have published some works, which I will verify. Since this project only focuses on tenured, tenure-track, and Emeritus faculty (I should have brought this up earlier), and publication is a requirement for the tenure status, I am confident on the publication.
- We have ORCID ID project and this project going on the same time to try to build the foundations of scholarly communication. We plan to migrate an institutional repository that has linked data capabilities (setting up test trial now). Creating wikidata items for the faculty in the repository will allow us to link the faculty work to faculty's wikidata page in the future.
- Let me know if you have further questions! Gretaheng18 (talk) 18:53, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Are random faculty members notable? I think only in the case they have published at least one scientific work. I hope that Wikidata will get full coverage of all the world’s scientific publications, and I would love to have more authors with orcid in WD, but only if they actually published something. Could you check if they published anything before importing?—So9q (talk) 03:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- I will approve the bot in a couple of days provided no objections have been raised.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:00, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at the two first items I came across: Q110892606 and Q110892602, their part of (P361) statements seem problematic. Isn't there a better way to express this? --- Jura 12:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- I borrowed some properties from Stanford University Library's data model for academic faculty/staff; they use Part of as well to express the relationship between faculty members (human not institution) and departments (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Stanford_Libraries/Data_models#Core_description). When I researched which property to use, there is an alternative more specific: academic appointment (P8413). But I think part of is more flexible. Some faculty may volunteer to work in a committee or a working group that is not appointed. They may also be a lab manager that they got grant for. Part of can be applied to all these cases. If you feel not comfortable by this general part of (P361) property, do you think affiliation (P1416) works, which is a subproperty of part of? Gretaheng18 (talk) 18:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure where that page comes from. Once one tries to add the inverse has part(s) (P527), it seems fairly clear that it doesn't work well for organizations.
- As a general rule, if there is a more specific property available, that should be used. As I don't quite know what the link is between the values and all the persons you plan to add, I can't recommend one over the other. affiliation (P1416) is likely to work in most contexts. subproperty of (P1647) can help determine that, but I think it's use is somewhat limited in Wikidata and not necessarily conclusive. --- Jura 07:19, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestions. I will discuss the data model with my colleagues! Gretaheng18 (talk) 16:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- I updated the data model here:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_PCC_Wikidata_Pilot/San_Diego_State_University/SDSU_Institutional_Data_Project#Extended_description. Let me know if you have any questions. I will run a few tests over the weekend. Gretaheng18 (talk) 22:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I borrowed some properties from Stanford University Library's data model for academic faculty/staff; they use Part of as well to express the relationship between faculty members (human not institution) and departments (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Stanford_Libraries/Data_models#Core_description). When I researched which property to use, there is an alternative more specific: academic appointment (P8413). But I think part of is more flexible. Some faculty may volunteer to work in a committee or a working group that is not appointed. They may also be a lab manager that they got grant for. Part of can be applied to all these cases. If you feel not comfortable by this general part of (P361) property, do you think affiliation (P1416) works, which is a subproperty of part of? Gretaheng18 (talk) 18:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)