Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/MexBot 2
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- No response to licensing concerns after a few years, not done --DannyS712 (talk) 03:01, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
MexBot 2 edit
MexBot (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Operator: MarcAbonce (talk • contribs • logs)
Task/s: Add official population data for Mexican municipalities.
Code: https://gitlab.com/a01200356/MexBot/blob/master/poblaciones.py
Function details:
The script finds all Mexican municipalities with an INEGI municipality ID and gets all the official population data available from INEGI's (Mexican public institute that does the census) API.
It will either add or update this data, with INEGI as the source.
It will also add census as the method for the year ends in 0, when the census is made.
MarcAbonce (talk) 21:45, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Support --PokestarFan • Drink some tea and talk with me • Stalk my edits • I'm not shouting, I just like this font! 23:16, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Under which license INEGI publishes population data? XXN, 14:41, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Not explicitated but it is like a CC BY, see point f in section "Del libre uso de la información del INEGI" of Términos de uso. I don't think is compatible. --ValterVB (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed, it only requires attribution, which is precisely what my script intends to add. Why would it be incompatible? Most of this data has already been manually added by people and apparently a Wikipedia scraping script too, but it's mostly unsourced. --MarcAbonce (talk)
- Here we use CC0, if data here need citation the data is incompatible with the license. --ValterVB (talk) 05:47, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Can census data even be licensed, though? As far as I know, facts cannot be licensed anywhere. If this is the case, this license would only be enforceable with the statistical data they generate (which I'm not using) but it wouldn't be enforceable for a simple, "natural" fact such as a total population.
- Also, as I mentioned, this data is already allowed in practice. Wikipedia importing bots have added census data into Wikidata by claiming Wikipedia as the source (which is also CC0 incompatible, by the way), but this data is not generated by Wikipedia, but rather taken from INEGI and imported without source.
- So, unless you actually plan to delete all the unsourced and Wikipedia sourced Mexican population data from this site, the most reasonable thing to do would be to treat this data the way it has been treated so far, for the sake of consistency.
- --MarcAbonce (talk)
- Here we use CC0, if data here need citation the data is incompatible with the license. --ValterVB (talk) 05:47, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed, it only requires attribution, which is precisely what my script intends to add. Why would it be incompatible? Most of this data has already been manually added by people and apparently a Wikipedia scraping script too, but it's mostly unsourced. --MarcAbonce (talk)
- Not explicitated but it is like a CC BY, see point f in section "Del libre uso de la información del INEGI" of Términos de uso. I don't think is compatible. --ValterVB (talk) 17:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Mexico is outside of the EU and thus there are no suis genesis concerns. Population data itself is about facts that in their nature aren't protected by copyright. ChristianKl (talk) 09:31, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- The license not depend if Mexico is in or out of EU. Wikidata use CC0, INEGI ask explicity "Must give credit for the INEGI as an author", for me they aren't compatible. --ValterVB (talk) 14:32, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]