Wikidata talk:Property proposal/Place

article about church (or similar)

We have many articles about parishes (I am not talking about the counties of Louisiana and similar!) A link to the article about the church is then good to have. Are there already any property than can be used for this? -- Lavallen (block) 08:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Not all the places have a church. It's the same to create a property to museums, hospitals, cemeteries, airports... I don't think that this could be useful. - Sarilho1 (talk) 14:21, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

On the item about the church, you could use the property "part of" to link the article about the parish it belongs to. A more specific property could also be created.

This would in addition to the property "is in the administrative unit" locating it geographically. --  Docu  at 14:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Not all places have a church, true! But all parishes of the Swedish lutheran church in Sweden has one or several churches, with very few exemptions. In sv:Gudmundrå församling the article about one of the churches is linked in the infobox. (There is two churches and one known church-ruin in this parish.) Such a property would have the same function as P237, and not all places has a COA. Since these articles are about the clergal activity in a congregation of the Swedish church, the church is essential for that subject, and a link to an article about the architecture of that building is useful. There are several hundreds of articles about parishes of the Swedish lutheran church on svwp. (I am not a member of that church.)

Almost all parishes (freguesias) in Portugal (if not all) also have a church, but some have more and other have other types of religious building of other religions. If we use this property to churches, we should create a property to mosques, synagogues... - Sarilho1 (talk) 11:11, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't think Lavallen meant "parishes" when used as a term for governmental administrative divisions (as in Louisiana, Portugal). The question is church only. --  Docu  at 12:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Correct, this is not a govermental administrative division, even if it used to be 170 years ago, when the church was an instrument of the goverment. It would be good if such a property could be used for any article about the architecture of an article-related building, not only christian churches, yes. -- Lavallen (block) 12:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I can imagine that such a property could also be used for example in the infobox about the parliament of any State, and then link to the article about the architecture of the parliament-building. Because of that, I could imagine that I already could find such a property. -- Lavallen (block) 17:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

I added a proposal at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Organization#Place_of_worship. Maybe this captures what you are looking for. --  Docu  at 21:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions for improving property proposal documentation

Hi

I suggested my first property this morning with a lot of help from Jens Ohlig and would like to give a bit of feedback about the process. I think the documentation could be improved, these are the issues I ran into when I nominated the property with additional documentation that would be helpful:

Fields within the template with unclear descriptions

|infobox parameter = Wikipedia infobox parameters, if any; ex: "population" in en:template:infobox settlement
It would be helpful to say how to find this information

|domain = types of items that may bear this property
Examples would be helpful here

|example = Universe (Q1) → Earth (Q2)
This was the most unclear, it would be very helpful to have a description of the formatting, an example and how to use qualifiers if needed in the description and give an example

Description of error messages and how to fix them

When I saved the page I got the error message The ID entered is unknown to the system. Please use a valid entity ID. It is unclear what this error message means or how to fix it. If I was not getting help from Jens I would have got stuck, I couldn't see a way to proceed. Jens deleted the fields we weren't using which gave another error message Example MISSING which was more understandable and easily fixed.

General

It would be helpful to link through to the glossary where possible to remind people of the terms.

I hope this is helpful, happy to answer any questions, I will be proposing some more properties so may add to this later on.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 10:11, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand the paragraphs

Why "Geographic location" and "Status"? The proposed properties have nothing to do with either. --AndreasPraefcke (talk) 07:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

discussion again

Is it possible to put Wikidata:Property_proposal/HASC again on this page please. Thank you, Conny (talk) 12:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC).