Wikidata talk:WikiProject Source MetaData/Archive 5

Active discussions

Bibliography of Wikidata

Hi All,

I've created a Wikidata:Bibliography of Wikidata page, feel free to expand if interested.

Best, Adam Harangozó (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

@Adam Harangozó: Nice work. I might be good to ensure that all of those items have Wikidata (Q2013) as a main subject (P921) and have a listeria table or link to a query so that it doesn't fall out of date (avoid the fate of this page). T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 12:52, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Sadly I don't know how to do that but I hope someone will. I'll add articles then, which don't have a Wikidata item yet, and the others can go through listeria. --Adam Harangozó (talk) 19:00, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
@Adam Harangozó: No worries. I'm only just learning to set up automatically-updating listeria tables, so I'll have a look into it. you might also find typing "wikidata" into this tool interesting. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 03:06, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Affiliation mismatch with ORCID

While curating author affiliations, I noted that the Escola Superior de Agricultura Luiz de Queiroz (a unit of the University of São Paulo, though Wikidata does not know that yet) has a good number of people — e.g. Wanderley Marques Bernardo (Q89675057) — having employer (P108) statements with them that are referenced to ORCID but where their ORCID profile does not mention the school itself (though at least some of them mention the University of São Paulo) and who work on things not closely related to agriculture. Posting this here because I could not sort it out on the spot. Also pinging Sic19, since they seem to have been behind at least some of these edits. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@Daniel Mietchen: thanks for flagging this batch. I can tell you exactly what has caused this to happen; the Ringgold ID (P3500) for the University of São Paulo (28133) was erroneously added to Luiz de Queiroz College of Agriculture (Q5397345). When I reconciled the ORCID data against Wikidata using the organization identifiers this mismatching occurred. I've corrected the identifiers to prevent a repeat and will update the affiliations soon. There are other organization items with incorrect external identifiers and therefore we could have other mismatched affiliations - it is difficult to catch them, especially in large batches. It is more common for an identifier to be added to two different organizations but that is not a problem in this context because the reconciliation will fail. If you spot any similar problems in the future I would be grateful if you can send me the details. Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 22:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Resolved. Employer claims have been corrected per the referenced ORCID data. Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 21:06, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Property to use when describing the methods and equipment used in a scholarly publication?

also mentioned at Wikidata:Project chat

Are there existing properties to state the methods and equipment used in scientific publications, or are new ones needed? For example the publication Q27643422, uses the method Molecular replacement (Q17104122) and used the equipment Advanced Photon Source (Q2825375) (but clearly neither are a main subject (P921)). Eventually I'd like to see the methods and equipment used for all publications listed in their Wikidata items. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 10:47, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we can extend the scope of describes a project that uses (P4510)? --Stevenliuyi (talk) 04:32, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
@Stevenliuyi: Ah thank you, that's ideal I think! I'd not even come across it previously! It' current usage certainly covers equipment/reagent side of things from its listed examples, but I think it should be clear in context when also using it for a technique/method. I'm not wild about its long label, but no huge problem. (ping @Jura1, Pasleim, TomT0m, JakobVoss, Fnielsen: some ppl involved in its creation/discussion ) T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 12:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
I’d tend to be usually in favor of creating an item for the experiment. Create an item, link it to the publication, then use the usual properties on the experiment item to describe the experiment. Useless to duplicate all the properties like « uses » with « describes something that uses », « studies » vs. « describe something that studies » in my opininion. author  TomT0m / talk page 12:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
@TomT0m: Interesting, I'd not thought of that structure. Definitely a bit more complex, and a single publication could easily have a dozen experiments as part of it. Inclusion of methods and equipment is going to start of being extremely gappy (low coverage) since it's mostly not automatable yet. To start with I'm inclined to keep the information on the publication's item itself, but I can see it all being automatically migrated into linked items for each experiment later once it becomes more common and we want to make the structure more complex. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 00:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
I suppose we would also end up with "Wikidata project" in addition to Wikidata (Q2013). There is some discussion of this at Property_talk:P4510 --- Jura 05:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

How to model scholar articles produced in a project?

Hi, I'm having some trouble to figure this and any help would be appreciated.

Let's say a researcher is associated to an institution (not necessarily paid), and produces articles for that institution's project. How do we model that? funder (P8324) explicitly says the relation involves money; sponsor (P859) doesn't seems right either. I'm thinking something more like on focus list of Wikimedia project (P5008) or a "part of the project" sort of property.

Thanks in advance and good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 04:54, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

@Ederporto: Conceivably affiliation (P1416) could be useful. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 05:45, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, @Evolution and evolvability:. Re-reading my question, I think it was dubious what I wanted help with. I am thinking in how to model the articles. How do I say an article is part of a project? Again, thanks for your answer. Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
For example, Modelos de redes neurais com neurônios estocásticos e diferentes topologias: construção e análise (Q98799554). I added part of (P361)NeuroMat (Q18477654). As you can access in page 6 of the pdf of this article ([1]), "This thesis was produced as part of the activities of FAPESP Research, Innovation and Dissemination Center for Neuromathematics (grant #2013/07699-0, S.Paulo Research Foundation".
@Ederporto: Ah, I see what you mean now, how to model that the article is part of a project (my previous answer was about modelling a contributors' relationship with an institution). I agree that part of (P361) is pretty sensible. It's also flexible in case there are multiple projects that a single publication could be a part of. T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 03:19, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

merging articles and their peer reviews into single items?

Hello all. I just noticed that the peer review and author response for an elife paper has been created as a separate item (there are likely others that have been similarly imported):

I think it's best to link to the url mentioned in the second item in the former as peer review URL (P7347), since all other information is duplicate. Any opinions? T.Shafee(evo&evo) (talk) 12:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Two WikiCite grant programs - applications closing soon

I just wanted to make sure that people who frequent this project page are aware of these two grant programs currently open, highly relevant to this Wikiproject's activities. They were announced on the main project chat a month ago (and various other places) but I wanted to write here specifically too. Apply by 1 October.

1. Project & events [$2-10k]

2. e-Scholarships [per-diem calculated on your city; 1-5 people (single, or as a 'remote group') for 2-4 days, for COVID-era "stay at home" projects. Paid in advance living allowance, no expense report required.]

There is lots of documentation, eligibility requirements, selection criteria, program design principles at those links. Please check them out. Sincerely, LWyatt (WMF) (talk) 13:57, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Return to the project page "WikiProject Source MetaData/Archive 5".