Wikidata:Property proposal/RERO+ ID

‎RERO+ ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Not done

Description	RERO+ identifier
Represents	RERO+ (Q124795416)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	numbers
Example 1	Winston Churchill (Q8016)RERO+ ID7885724
Example 2	Benito Mussolini (Q23559)RERO+ ID7551836
Example 3	Adolf Hitler (Q352)RERO+ ID575352
Source	https://bib.rero.ch
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Formatter URL	https://bib.rero.ch/global/entities/remote/$1
Country	Switzerland (Q39)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation edit

Add a viable authority control for Switzerland. The previous RERO ID (obsolete) (P3065) identifier is now obsolete, however still a part of the VIAF cluster. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spinster300 (talk • contribs).

Discussion edit

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 04:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Epìdosis 08:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Are there any plans to set this property automatically (e.g. based on https://mef.rero.ch/api/agents/rero/A003620931)? --1-Byte (talk) 15:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from RERO, via email: As mentioned by Nicolas Prongué in his message of September 2022, there are no "new RERO+ identifiers", or at least it doesn't necessarily make sense to add them to Wikidata. There are MEF identifiers, but they are only clusters taken from VIAF with data coming directly from IdRef and GND. No authority data are created or controlled directly by RERO+ other than links to documents in RERO ILS. In conclusion, we now employ IdRef and GND identifiers. We thank you very much for your interest. Do not hesitate to contact us back if you have further questions. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Spinster300: given the above, is there any purpose adding this property? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Martin, the links would surely benefit readers and researchers living in Switzerland, as the RERO database describes authors and subjects of documents held by libraries across several Swiss cantonal libraries. I would argue that providing library resources per country is the most basic function of the authority control template; I hope this encourages future additions of several other authority databases maintained by other countries' library networks, especially countries in Africa, Asia, and South America. Kind regards, Spinster300 (talk) 13:09, 11 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Is there any significant difference between [1] and [2]? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Martin, I am not the best person to gauge that. Would anybody else better versed in library sciences be able to make the assessment? Kind regards, Spinster300 (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Comment The phrase "No authority data are created or controlled directly by RERO+ other than links to documents in RERO ILS", united with some relevant data quality problems (see the dates in https://bib.rero.ch/global/entities/remote/6643303 and https://bib.rero.ch/global/entities/remote/2247419) as of now make me think that we should at least reflect a bit more on the pros and cons of creating the property. --Epìdosis 13:22, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, no consensus of proposed property at this time based on the above discussion. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]