Wikidata:Requests for comment/Adopt Help:SitelinksToRedirects as policy

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Policy tag added to the page. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 15:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has requested the community to provide input on "Adopt Help:SitelinksToRedirects as policy" via the Requests for comment (RFC) process. This is the discussion page regarding the issue.

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After the RfC that was concluded with the decision that the Wikidata community wants sitelinks to redirects to be able to be added directly to Wikidata items a few issues were left unclear. In particular it was unclear how users will know that they are dealing with a redirect and not a regular sitelink. This has been solved by the feature of badges. We also lacked an explicit policy that made it clear that misspellings and alternative spellings don't deserve their own Wikidata item and shouldn't linked to redirects.

I wrote up a help page to clarify those outstanding issues and propose hereby to adopt it as policy.

Adopt Help:SitelinksToRedirects as policy edit

Support edit

Support As proposer. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 11:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems well-reasoned. Thank you for untangling this logical furball Matthias Winkelmann (talk) 12:30, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support This seems helpful. Kaldari (talk) 17:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Not sure about some use cases, but the rest is fine. The badge is much better than current hideous dirty hack.--Jklamo (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per cases such as the English-language Wikipedia redirecting a page like "Libyan Arab Jamahiriya to "History of Libya under Muammar Gaddafi#Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (1977–2011)" and similar cases. -- Donald Trung/徵國單 (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 19:52, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - PKM (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support seems very useful, in particular in the context of wp.pt, where ppl use and abuse of redirects which in fact represent a distinct entity than the one they are pointed at.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 21:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support – The proposal has been discussed and issues have been addressed. It is a useful feature. Senator2029 21:47, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support --PhiH (talk) 13:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks helpful and no issues with combined help/guidance on one page. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 18:02, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Epìdosis 08:35, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Yes we should have a policy on this and this page looks fine. If necessary we can change it later as we do with other policies. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:55, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Daask (talk) 17:03, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition edit

Oppose in the current form. It is a mixture of a help page and a guideline/policy page, and as such not ready for approval. —MisterSynergy (talk) 12:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I consider it helpful to mix the two. Having a help page that says "do X Y in case Z" while that not being policy makes it generally complicated for new users to orient themselves. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 12:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Help:Description is also a guideline page. It seems fine to me. Kaldari (talk) 17:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Is it possible to add "redirect badge" by hand? Infovarius (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Infovarius: Yes, the badges can be added like the existing badges for good articles can be added. Adding a badge to a link however means saving the link and currently that gets blocked by Wikibase when the link points to a page with a redirect. I'm hopefully that once it's clear that our community wants the badges when this RFC succeeds, the software will stop blocking the saving of redirect links and thus among other things allow us to add badges. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 23:43, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does this interfer with sitelink automatic changes when moving a Wikipedia article?--DarwIn (talk) 15:53, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DarwIn: No, the automatic sitelink changes when moving Wikipedia articles should still happen the way they do now. The only expection might be when you move a redirect article where previously no automatic changes could be done and in future automatic changes could be done. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Following clear consensus over... a couple of years... I'm closing this RfC as having passed. The policy tag has been added to the page. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 15:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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