Property talk:P8886

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Associated item	Commission Internationale Permanente pour l'Epreuve des Armes à Feu Portatives (Q1115557)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	ammunition (Q185785)
Allowed values	tab\-(i{1,3}|iv|v|vi|vii|viii|ix|x|xi)\/tab(i{1,3}|iv|v|vi|vii|viii|ix|x|xi)cal\-(de|en|fr)\-page[1-9]\d{0,2}
Example	.223 Remington (Q2076678) → tab-i/tabical-en-page86 .460 Steyr (Q18404479) → tab-i/tabical-de-page151 .50 BMG (Q171628) → tab-i/50-browning-en
Source	https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/en/tdcc_public
Formatter URL	https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/$1.pdf
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Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 489 Main statement 485 99.2% of uses Qualifier 3 0.6% of uses Reference 1 0.2% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “tab\-(i{1,3}|iv|v|vi|vii|viii|ix|x|xi)\/tab(i{1,3}|iv|v|vi|vii|viii|ix|x|xi)cal\-(de|en|fr)\-page[1-9]\d{0,2}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#Format, SPARQL

Multi value: this property generally contains two or more values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#Multi value, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#Entity types

Type “ammunition (Q185785)”: item must contain property “subclass of (P279)” with classes “ammunition (Q185785)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#Type Q185785, SPARQL

Required qualifier “language of work or name (P407)”: this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8886#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL

TODO

• The current Formatter URL is "https://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/uploads/tdcc/$1.pdf". This does not work for 9×39mm (Q277494) that uses "https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/$1.pdf" (the homologation is missing). So the link to the datasheet is broken
• Regarding property constraint - format constraint - tab\-(i{1,3}|iv|v|vi|vii|viii|ix|x|xi)\/tab(i{1,3}|iv|v|vi|vii|viii|ix|x|xi)cal\-(de|en|fr)\-page[1-9]\d{0,2}
  • Usually this would be eg. tab-i/tabical-en-page86
  • 416 Taylor Mag.: tab-iii/416-taylor-mag-en (english, it misses tabXcal and pageY)
  • 17 Rem. Fireball: tab-i/17-rem-fireball-ge (german, same as above, like above also uses ge instead of de for the german datasheet)
  • 28/70 ("Cal. 28"): tab-vii/tabvii-28-eng-2 (english, mixed old and later patterns, uses eng for english, deu for german and fra for french
  • 40 x 46 BDLR X: There is at least this cartridge that only has the datasheet in one language (here it's french)
  • 6,5 Grendel: tab-i/6 (enlish only even the links say they are german and french)
  • 9 x 39: tab-i/9-x-39-180314-en1 (egnlish, there is a 1 after the language, same for fr and de)
  • It's similar for 410/50,7 (1), 410/63,5 (2), 410/65 (3), 410/70 (4), 410/73 (5) and 410/76 (6). The are all tab-vii/410-en-X (X beeing the number in the brackets). They furthermore seem to have the same datasheet for all of them.

See also Wikidata:Property_proposal/CIP_data_sheet#After_creation_talk for this --D-Kuru (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Linkfix needed

The default pattern seems to be "https://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/uploads/tdcc/tab-i/$.pdf", but it is not used for all ammunition. Eg. 12.7×108mm (Q171615) uses "https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/$.pdf" (so it misses homologation). The link of said example including "homologation" just leads to a 404 error page. --D-Kuru (talk) 14:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

• .257 Weatherby Magnum: tab-iii/257-weath-mag-180803-en (different pattern, does not include "homologation" in the link) --D-Kuru (talk) 12:06, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
• .284 Winchester: tab-i/284-win-201110-en (different pattern, does not include "homologation" in the link) --D-Kuru (talk) 15:40, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
• .30 Carbine: tab-i/tabical-en-page106 (does not include "homologation" in the link) --D-Kuru (talk) 15:43, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Seems like that the CIP has moved to a new URL that looks like https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/$1.pdf ("bobp" instead of "www" at the start and "homologation" was removed). I updated the property to that. Let's see if this is done now.

As said, they seem to have changed the entire lineup of all data sheets (so even the ones that were used in the example on the initial talk page). Eg. https://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/uploads/tdcc/tab-i/50-browning-en.pdf turned into https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/tab-i/50-browning-en.pdf

--D-Kuru (talk) 15:52, 19 December 2021 (UTC)