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Hi! Just for information: There is no ü/Ü in the Danish alphabet. --HarryNº2 (talk) 08:02, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @HarryNº2: i move the discussion from my talk page to here.
- My source "Souvenir de Séoul, Destins croisés France-Corée de 1886 aux années 1950 (2019)" say : "H. J. Mühlensteth (1855-1915), conseiller-inspecteur danois des Télégraphes impériaux de Chine, puis de Corée. Il a commencé à construire les premières lignes télégraphiques en Corée à parti de 1885.", so i don't know what conclude ? My source are researchers from EFEO, PSL Université Paris and Institut français Corée du Sud. So it's an heavy source to this subject... maybe it's a french romanisation ? — Koreller (discussion) 13:43, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- I also find those web sources :
- the last source say "Henry Mühlensteth (weitere Schreibweisen: Muhlensteth und Muehlensteth)" (in english Henry Mühlensteth (other spellings: Muhlensteth and Muehlensteth))
— Koreller (discussion) 13:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- A tombstone is no evidence of the origin of a family name. If Ben Yusuf was born in France, is Yusuf a French name? In Denmark, by the way, there is a German-speaking minority, especially in the south of Denmark. And as I said, there is no ü/Ü in the Danish alphabet, see Danish orthography. --HarryNº2 (talk) 14:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @HarryNº2: You're correct that the Danish alphabet doesn't have the ü/Ü, but there are many family names in Denmark of German origin, which still use the "¨".--Hjart (talk) 14:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- This is not about the person, but about the data record Mühlensteth (Q110382736), where Koreller writes that the name Mühlensteth is of Danish origin. --HarryNº2 (talk) 14:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @HarryNº2: Ok, The guy may be a Dane, but the name is of German origin, certainly not Danish --Hjart (talk) 14:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's what i mean
--HarryNº2 (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Just found one other Dane using this name, BTW.--Hjart (talk) 15:00, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- The name will certainly come from the German-speaking minority. On the map you can see e.g. many sites near the German-Danish border → MUHLENSTETH/MÜHLENSTETH. --HarryNº2 (talk) 15:24, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- A few hundred years back the royal Danish court and administration had lots of civil servants etc. from pretty much all over Germany (and elsewhere in Europe). So many in fact that some of them never learned the Danish language. Please also remember that until 1864 all of Schleswig-Holstein (Q1194) belonged under the Danish King. There were lots of German speaking subjects in particularly the southern parts of that territory.--Hjart (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- The name will certainly come from the German-speaking minority. On the map you can see e.g. many sites near the German-Danish border → MUHLENSTETH/MÜHLENSTETH. --HarryNº2 (talk) 15:24, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Just found one other Dane using this name, BTW.--Hjart (talk) 15:00, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- That's what i mean
- @HarryNº2: Ok, The guy may be a Dane, but the name is of German origin, certainly not Danish --Hjart (talk) 14:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- This is not about the person, but about the data record Mühlensteth (Q110382736), where Koreller writes that the name Mühlensteth is of Danish origin. --HarryNº2 (talk) 14:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- @HarryNº2: You're correct that the Danish alphabet doesn't have the ü/Ü, but there are many family names in Denmark of German origin, which still use the "¨".--Hjart (talk) 14:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- A tombstone is no evidence of the origin of a family name. If Ben Yusuf was born in France, is Yusuf a French name? In Denmark, by the way, there is a German-speaking minority, especially in the south of Denmark. And as I said, there is no ü/Ü in the Danish alphabet, see Danish orthography. --HarryNº2 (talk) 14:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
