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A logo cannot be an aliasEdit

An alias is "an assumed name" (Webster's). Or "autrement appelé (de tel ou tel nom)" (Robert). A logo is not a name. Un logo n'est pas un nom. It is a logo. It may be included somewhere in the page, but not as an alias. And the assertion according to which "it is done on other pages, so why not on this one" does not stand: an incorrect entry on other pages doesn't justify an incorrect entry on this one. Sapphorain (talk) 18:12, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

  • An alias in Wikidata is described at Help:Alias. It makes items searchable by that string.
"🇨🇭" is a Unicode regional indicator symbol not a logo. It's an abbreviate way of writing just as "ch".
Please refrain from deleting valid content from Wikidata. --- Jura 18:18, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Help:Alias does not mention anything else than names for aliases. The symbol "🇨🇭" is not a name. It is a small Swiss flag, and the Swiss flag is already included elsewhere in the page. Sapphorain (talk) 18:27, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Names and other abbreviations are frequently included elsewhere in a structured way. "🇨🇭" is not a flag, but a regional indicator symbol. --- Jura 18:30, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
You may give it any name you please, it will not transform it into an alias. An alias is a name. Sapphorain (talk) 18:32, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Can you provide me with a reference for "logo" you used? --- Jura 18:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
"logo" was not quite right. "Swiss flag" is more correct. The Swiss flag is not an alias. Sapphorain (talk) 19:16, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Can I see references for these two statements? --- Jura 02:43, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Oh, stop that now. The symbol you want to use clearly depicts a small Swiss flag. This does not satisfy the condition to be an alias, which is defined as a name by dictionaries, as I pointed in the first place. Sapphorain (talk) 07:50, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
If you can't provide a reference for your claim, we can't let your argument stand. Please refrain from disrupting Wikidata. --- Jura 16:42, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Once again, I did provide two references for the (well-known) fact that an alias is a name. Common sense tells us that a picture is not a name. You are claiming that it is, and you should provide a reference to your claim. Sapphorain (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I don't see any reference for Help:Alias being the alias you mention nor "🇨🇭" being a logo or whatever else you called it. If you want to build consensus to implement the change you seek, please take the time to properly argue your issue. If not, please refrain from disrupting Wikidata any further. --- Jura 08:55, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
The first line of Help:Alias reads "Aliases are alternative names". "🇨🇭" is not a name, it is the picture of a small Swiss flag. You are the one disrupting Wikidata by adding it as an alias, and you are the one who should seek a consensus for doing so. Sapphorain (talk) 09:42, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
You attempt to change the agreed version, removing Unicode regional indicator symbols. Please provide a reference for your interpretation of "🇨🇭". --- Jura 06:02, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
You don’t seem willing to read what I wrote. I am not interpreting, I am using referenced definitions. I provided 2 references specifying that an alias is a name, qu’un alias est un nom; this is confirmed by Help:Alias. Now a name is « a word or phrase by which a person, thing, or class of things is known, called, or spoken to or of » (Webster’s), « un mot servant à designer une personne, un animal ou une chose » (Larousse). This small Swiss flag, no matter how you want to call it, is not a name, ça n’est pas un nom, so it cannot be an alias, by definition.Sapphorain (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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