User:Ziko/Van Diagrams

First drafts of the "Van Diagrams"

Hello there! On this user page I present some first drafts of diagrams. Those diagrams are supposed to explain Wikidata. I am going to reveal here my thoughts behind the diagrams, and invite you to comment in order to improve the diagrams. Z. (talk) 11:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

I would be very happy with comments on:

  • A: Content issues: what is missing / is there too much on a slide?
  • B: Content issues: is the information correct / a suitable kind of generalization or simplification?
  • C: Design issues: do the slides look pleasant? are the colors, fonts etc. well chosen?

Overall idea edit

The diagrams are directed to German speaking people. Many elements are bilingual because it is often necessary to know a term also in English (in order to follow discussions in English). I am not quite sure about the present style: maybe the German term should be highlighted and stand first, with the English equivalent in brackets or smaller font.

The colors are supposed to follow a unified scheme, with e.g. light yellow as the color of wiki pages and light red as the color related to statements.

I used the Eiffel tower as an example because it is an object you might typically describe in a Wikipedia article or in another Wikimedia wiki. It is vastly known all over the world (more than the author Douglas Adams, I guess).

VD 01 edit

The slide presents a wiki data item page with its sections. The order is the same as on the real page. In my opinion our real pages are not perfect: one could have first everything that is used to identify the item (names for identification, identifiers from data bases), second the statements, third the links section (nowadays still only Wikimedia wiki links).

I gave colors for the different kinds of sections and want to re-use these colors consistently throughout the Van Diagrams.

The slide refers also to the often forgotten talk pages, with a slightly different color.

VD 02 edit

In my opinion, we have a certain problem with the statements on our item pages. A statement is item plus claim (claim=property+value), right? But on the item page we see in the statement section only claims. We have to keep in mind that the item, belonging to the claim, is the whole page. Actually, in our section "Statements" we only see claims so that we might call the section "Claims" rather than "Statements".

I tried to show the trinity of item+property+value by connecting the red box "property" (and indirectly the green box "value") with the blue box "item", via a thick black line.

In the current slide, no "Statement group" appears. I was not sure how important this concept is.

VD 03 edit

This slide is a kind of detailization of the previous one. You see again item, property and value, but this time with a different example and now also with qualifier and reference. I wasn't quite sure whether references aren't a kind of qualifier. Also, I wasn't quite sure whether a reference relates to a qualifier or to the value as a whole.

The speech bubble on the left side sums up (in German) what the whole claim says, including qualifier and reference: "The claim says: The Eiffel Tower is a registered historic monument since 1964 according to the official French data base." The speech bubble tells you how to "read" the claim.

The claim has the color "darker grey" which I already use for the Wikimedia wiki links. Maybe this is a problem, maybe not.

VD 04 edit

This slide explains a section on the item page I call "names for identification" - is there a better term?

VD 05 edit

Here you see Wikidata and its use for the other Wikimedia wikis. The Wikipedia articles about the Eiffel tower and the object page on Wikimedia Commons are connected with dark orange color lines to the Wikimedia links section of the Wikidata item page.

The speech bubble explains that Wikidata is the database for the links between Wikipedia language versions (and other Wikimedia wikis).

Comments please! edit

Very cool! Just needs to be made prettier :-) --Gnom (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks - just tell me how! :-) I know, in general, they need rework to make spaces fit etc. Z. (talk) 13:21, 28 May 2017 (UTC)