DaxServer

@DaxServer, I noticed that you are updating mandals as per the new districts. I have the data collected from OSM, which will ensure error free update through quickstatements. If you are doing manually, can you stop, as there is scope for errors.

Absolutely! Please import them and ping me :)

@Arjunaraoc Do you also want me to stop changing the descriptions like this one  ?

Yes. I will take care of that too.

Okay, thanks

I have completed the update. Can you do a random check and confirm the quality of the update? Thanks

I only looked at the mandal counts query from your page. Would you be able to add the end date and start date for the mandals? Or should it be done manually? If so, I could do that soon-ish

I have already updated for all the affected mandals. ( ex:Addateegala mandal), As you seem to have created new qids for mandals in enwiki, it is better to merge them with corresponding Telugu mandal qids, as those qids are being used in OSM already. If my response does not address the issue, share an example with the change required.

Ahh, you have updated mandals. I was looking at the district qid and wondering. Like Srikakulam district the mandals in P131 need qualifiers, for those that changed. I'll try to look at the mandals randomly and check the import.

Re the merged ones, did you notice something that I didn't merge?

Thanks for correcting Addateegala mandal start date. OK I will work on end dates and start dates for P150 property of districts. I thought I have handled that case, but looks like I did not.

I did not handle for old districts of changed mandals, I will do that.

I have completed the updation of mandals in old district pages with their end date. Can you check and let me know if I missed any other updates.

You're quite fast! Thanks for your good work :)

Thanks for your appreciation. Nice to have a co-working person like you on Wikidata. I got introduced four years back to Wikidata, but could get a better hang of it only recently. I am trying to clean up all the issues that are inadvertently introduced by other contributors, as they tried to contribute.

@DaxServer, Nice to see that you are actively editing wikidata regarding the AP district changes. I have seen that you have added revenue divisions for some mandals in Tirupati district. As per wikidata guidance, P131 should be used for the lowest admin setup of the entity. If we follow that we have to use only revenue divisions for P131 and then use districts as P131 for revenue division entities. Though revenue division are an intermediate layer, their use for public is mostly related to any escalation of land issues at Mandal level. Mandals are more prominent in general use. I have also added experimentally revenue divisions for Prakasam district in the past. I am of the view, we should not bother about revenue divisions in wikidata. Please share your view. I am deferring further edits till we reach consensus on this. BTW, I tried to see how Karnataka districts are represented. They are using State- Revenue Divisions-districts-Taluk, where as the actual hierarchy is State-Revenue Div- Sub Div-District-Taluk . Taluk entities are not having P131 at this time. Having too many layers makes the usage of wikidata through queries more complex. If you take census data, they consider districts and subdistricts as the primary hierarchy and ignore the revenue division in their documents as far as I know.

@Arjunaraoc Nice to see you too! As the revenue divisions are not really used outside of land issues, as you said, the District -> Mandal -> Village hierarchy seems very natural. Altho, it would be really useful to also map the relation b/w revenue divisions and other entities somewhere. I have no idea where. I might not be the best person to talk to about Wikidata, but there is a Telegram group for India Wikidata, if you are not already part of, which could be useful. You could ask @Planemad if you'd like to join. I think you are already part of the OSM IN group, aren't you? I remember seeing your name.

Either way, do you think district -> mandal -> village is better representation for P131?

@Arjunaraoc You might want to post in Wikidata talk:WikiProject India as that might be better so others might also want to chip in if they are interested in. (P.S. If you need my inputs, please ping me always as I'm not watching Wikidata changes)

Thanks for your prompt reply. I agree that district-mandal-village is certainly better. So far several editors from Telugu states have experimented with wikidata, sometimes adding data with validation problems. I think at least for this AP districts restructuring update, we two can form the core and implement the agreed hierarchy. This requires removing Revenue division properties that are added on a trial basis by you and me. I will go ahead with the work, as I have collected the changes in mandal data of districts from the OSM, which I can confirm is accurate for the erstwhile 670 mandals. I will consider joining Wikidata telegram group in due course.

OK, I will post in the project space so that others are aware.

@Arjunaraoc Thanks. One thing that would be important is to retain the past districts using the start time, end time, preferred rank qualifiers, if you are not using them already.

Yes, I have made edits of end time for all the mandals which are being transferred. Rank qualifiers can not be set automatically using quickstatements. At Telugu wikipedia, we started using wikidata based infobox for Mandals, villages in Prakasam district. I am working on expanding it to all Mandals, as othewise, the work is not sustainable and quality can not be assured, due to small and decreasing set of wikipedians

@Arjunaraoc I think you can set qualifiers: Help:QuickStatements#Add statement with qualifiers

It's quite cool to see more integration of Wikidata into Wikipedia projects. Hope to see more!! If you think I could be of help somewhere (except writing content), let me know :)

It is true that maintenance is indeed a burden on the rest of us who are active. I still haven't figured out how to ensure the quality of Wikidata and revert errors or vandalism of sorts. The Recent Changes feed has an option to monitor them, but I haven't found it to my liking. What is your current process of monitoring Wikidata related things?

As per the quickstatements help, rank can not be set or changed. I have seen some bots doing the rank setting based on the latest datasets.

I mainly focus on AP Mandals data. I check it once in three months or so with queries for counts in each district. I also track relevant wikidata changes in my tewiki recent changes with wikidata changes option enabled.

I am working on adding coordinate info to AP mandals, using the data in tewiki article pages. I reached a count of 345. For the rest, I need to use the mandal hq pages, if they have coordinates. Can you work on populating the new districts information except the consistuent mandals which I will add based on wiki articles?

Ahh, "rank" qualifiers! I didn't see that. Would you be able to share those queries?

I'll work thru my way with the new districts slowly

@DaxServer, You can see my queries on my userpage. For counts of mandals, see the section labeled counts.