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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Liuxinyu970226/Archive 1 on 2019-09-02.

MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

RMaung (WMF) 17:37, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Liuxinyu970226, I do not understand your edit comment in Special:Diff/1050974215. What do you mean with "perfects", and which "reverts" do you refer to? Can you please clarify? Thanks.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

But then, a fact is that the ExternalUse template on that page was populated several times, and has too many duplicate entries, aren't they?

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Maybe I mentioned a wrong user, this problem was happened before that, I don't know why

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Well, I don't know. As far as I can see, I did nothing to the property (or property talk page) that could have affected the ExternalUse templates; thus I wondered a lot about your edit comment.

ExternalUse templates are pretty messy anyways. Sometimes the template itself is transcluded several times on a single property talk page. Not sure whether it is worth the effort to format it properly, as the next bot run will likely mess it up again.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

So what's the correct thing I should do? Ask Krbot's owner?

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Yes, you could try to contact Ivan.

According to my experience, the bot occasionally just adds templates which newly use that property, but it probably does not remove templates which do no longer use the property. It also does not make much effort to consolidate the list of templates to a useful format (e.g. grouping by wiki, and then list templates alphabetically or so).

Whether Ivan will fix this… I don't know. Unfortunately, he does not publish his code and his bot runs on a local machine which means you can't just submit a fix to a code repo.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Having thought about that once more…

  • There is some discussion from past years about {{ExternalUse}} on Template talk:ExternalUse.
  • According to an older comment by Ivan on that page, he is using a purely heuristical and relatively expensive approach to collect external property use from template pages. This might have changed meanwhile as we got more sophisticated property use tracking methods, but I think it still is a complicated process.
  • When we try to systematically improve the content of the template parameter of {{ExternalUse}}, we should also consider to overhaul this template completely. Some options:
    • Do not use {{ExternalUse}} any longer, and move to statements on properties. User:Pigsonthewing has suggested this on Template talk:ExternalUse a while ago. Not sure, however, whether it scales properly for properties that have a lot of external use.
    • Continue using {{ExternalUse}}, but do not store the content on property talk pages any longer. A property talk page subpage such as "Property talk:P17/externaluse" could be easier to maintain in good shape, and it could be automatically transcluded by {{Property documentation}} if existing and non-empty.
    • Continue using {{ExternalUse}}, but do not store the content as a large chunk of unstructured wikitext inside it. Invent some template structure that helps to display the external use properly. This could/should also be possible for the previous proposal.
Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

So I'm in favor of the first, because the function is more and more likely things that a Special page should do.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Well, we do not have a special page yet and it appears difficult to make one. From what I can see, there are:

  • Special:EntityUsage pages on local wikis. They do not list which templates/modules use specific Wikidata properties.
  • I think some wikis categorize Wikidata use. However, this is done manually as well.
  • Use Cirrus' insource: code search functionality in Template: and Module: namespace. This probably yields a lot of false-positives.

Mind that there is also need to track really external use, i.e. use outside of any Wikimedia project. That cannot be done with special pages anyways, and likely not with property statements as well.

Reminder: Community Insights Survey

MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

RMaung (WMF) 19:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Dear Community Insights Survey owner, I'm Liuxinyu970226, NOT "V7p6xqpn4f7oi1jo".

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Supaplex (talkcontribs)

如果我沒理解錯的,新提案成立的{{P7416}}應該是用折頁上的,也許叫折頁頁面編號之類的。或者{{P|304}}改成書本頁碼或是出版品頁碼。Supaplex (talk) 17:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Ericmetro (talkcontribs)

抱歉较迟回复,赞同您现在的处理方法,参考提案页面的说明P7416也许应叫做张数号码较为妥当,谢谢 Ericmetro (talk) 13:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

THHAP (talkcontribs)
Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

I'm not very familiar with Mix'n'match, maybe ask others?

Wikimedia Taiwan / IncuWPTA project at Wikimedia France / Inalco event in June 2020

Eavqwiki (talkcontribs)

Hello @Liuxinyu970226

Wikimedia France is organising a two-day scientific event on collaborative projects and tools for promoting under-resources languages on the web with the university Inalco that specialises in oriental languages.

The tentative dates are June 4th and 5th of 2020 in Inalco, Paris.

I am reaching out to know if you would be interested in participating in this event to present the Wikimedia Taiwan / IncuWPTA project, or know someone involved in it who would be interested to do so ?

世界首都环游 (talkcontribs)


Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

不好意思可能最近我自身处境问题,有时说话确实有些过于强硬,如果因为误会伤害到您我愿做出抱歉,但是有一件事是真的,列表项是不能和普通的主题项合并的,哪怕之间没有什么跨维基链接冲突也不行,因为这边有is a list of (P360)has list (P2354)对这类项进行互相链接,如果是基于本地左侧的跨语言链接,则可以考虑部署Module:Interwiki (Q20819069)或者Module:Interwiki (Q15727702)

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)
世界首都环游 (talkcontribs)



Restore appointment on Wikiquote

Summary by Liuxinyu970226

seems nothing to continue discuss (talkcontribs)

Hello, you inadvertently deleted a link from a Spanish wikiquote by Patxi Xabier Lezama Perier, the quote with verified references, I would appreciate restoring that wikiquote page. Greetings and thanks.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)
Cookie (talkcontribs)
Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Okay, thx.

Summary by Liuxinyu970226

resolved elsewhere

Eurohunter (talkcontribs)

Hello. From what I can see P921 is limited to works only so it not match with racing teams or races.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)