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Ottawahitech (talkcontribs)

International School of Engineering (Chulalongkorn University) is an item that does not exist on wikidata, however, Chulalongkorn University does exist here. Just wondering if the university item on wikdata can link to it somehow? Thanks in advance

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Yaviltal (talkcontribs)

Last night my changes where removed because they where not helpful you said but there where right

YoniSch (talkcontribs)

Hi! Please see this edition. Now if you know how to delete pages - you can delete the page you created. Thanks anyway... ~~~~

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Done, thx.

KMagz04 (talkcontribs)

Can you welcome me, no one had welcomed me yet here. Best, KMagz04 (talk) 12:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Liuxinyu970226, I do not understand your edit comment in Special:Diff/1050974215. What do you mean with "perfects", and which "reverts" do you refer to? Can you please clarify? Thanks.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

But then, a fact is that the ExternalUse template on that page was populated several times, and has too many duplicate entries, aren't they?

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Maybe I mentioned a wrong user, this problem was happened before that, I don't know why

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Well, I don't know. As far as I can see, I did nothing to the property (or property talk page) that could have affected the ExternalUse templates; thus I wondered a lot about your edit comment.

ExternalUse templates are pretty messy anyways. Sometimes the template itself is transcluded several times on a single property talk page. Not sure whether it is worth the effort to format it properly, as the next bot run will likely mess it up again.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

So what's the correct thing I should do? Ask Krbot's owner?

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Yes, you could try to contact Ivan.

According to my experience, the bot occasionally just adds templates which newly use that property, but it probably does not remove templates which do no longer use the property. It also does not make much effort to consolidate the list of templates to a useful format (e.g. grouping by wiki, and then list templates alphabetically or so).

Whether Ivan will fix this… I don't know. Unfortunately, he does not publish his code and his bot runs on a local machine which means you can't just submit a fix to a code repo.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Having thought about that once more…

  • There is some discussion from past years about {{ExternalUse}} on Template talk:ExternalUse.
  • According to an older comment by Ivan on that page, he is using a purely heuristical and relatively expensive approach to collect external property use from template pages. This might have changed meanwhile as we got more sophisticated property use tracking methods, but I think it still is a complicated process.
  • When we try to systematically improve the content of the template parameter of {{ExternalUse}}, we should also consider to overhaul this template completely. Some options:
    • Do not use {{ExternalUse}} any longer, and move to statements on properties. User:Pigsonthewing has suggested this on Template talk:ExternalUse a while ago. Not sure, however, whether it scales properly for properties that have a lot of external use.
    • Continue using {{ExternalUse}}, but do not store the content on property talk pages any longer. A property talk page subpage such as "Property talk:P17/externaluse" could be easier to maintain in good shape, and it could be automatically transcluded by {{Property documentation}} if existing and non-empty.
    • Continue using {{ExternalUse}}, but do not store the content as a large chunk of unstructured wikitext inside it. Invent some template structure that helps to display the external use properly. This could/should also be possible for the previous proposal.
Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

So I'm in favor of the first, because the function is more and more likely things that a Special page should do.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Well, we do not have a special page yet and it appears difficult to make one. From what I can see, there are:

  • Special:EntityUsage pages on local wikis. They do not list which templates/modules use specific Wikidata properties.
  • I think some wikis categorize Wikidata use. However, this is done manually as well.
  • Use Cirrus' insource: code search functionality in Template: and Module: namespace. This probably yields a lot of false-positives.

Mind that there is also need to track really external use, i.e. use outside of any Wikimedia project. That cannot be done with special pages anyways, and likely not with property statements as well.

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RMaung (WMF) 19:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Dear Community Insights Survey owner, I'm Liuxinyu970226, NOT "V7p6xqpn4f7oi1jo".

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