Malibu2020

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Best regards! Ameisenigel (talk) 17:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

January 2022

Hello, I'm Ameisenigel. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because it didn't appear constructive. Feel free to use the sandbox for test edits. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks!  Ameisenigel (talk) 17:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Ameisenigel, Thank you for letting me know. But please let me explain that I am only updating accurate information about the artist, Armik. There are multiple corrections that are urgently needed to be done, because they are causing damage and much confusion. Can you please help me to update everything properly? I would appreciate it greatly. I can provide samples and accurate information. Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you. Malibu2020 (talk) 17:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Dear Ameisenigel, I forgot to mention that I am now blocked. Can you please help me further to continue with the updates? I would appreciate it greatly. Malibu2020 (talk) 17:45, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi. There is nothing wrong with updating information, but you have removed content at Armik (Q1362514) (especially IDs and references). There should be no need to do so. Best regards --Ameisenigel (talk) 17:48, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry about those removals. Perhaps they were my errors. But can I please update some of the most critical errors that are causing a lot of confusion and are damaging? Please help. I will be grateful. Malibu2020 (talk) 17:57, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Could you explain these critical errors? --Ameisenigel (talk) 18:01, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, one major error is the birhtday and year of Armik, which was obtained from an unreliable source that no longer exists. The wrong date and year is being listed all over Google, which is causing great confusion and really damaging to the artist. Second is the name that is listed as Armik Tashchyan. That is wrong. The last name should be Dashchi. And a few other information such as an incorrect bio. I can give you more details if you like. But please allow me to remove the birhtday and year, which is compeltly wrong. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Armik is not 78 years old. And his birthday is not July 1, 1943. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Also the Armenian last name should be Armik Dashchi. And Not Tashchyan. The citizenship of Armik is Iranian-Armenian/American Malibu2020 (talk) 18:13, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

The birthname is what I am referring to listed as; Արմիկ Տաշչյան (Armenian) It should be; Արմիկ Դաշչի

But as mentioned the most critical error is the BIRTHDAY AND YEAR.

I would appreciate if I will be allowed to make this critical change. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:23, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

The birthday change would require the removal of that section. Thank you very much for your help and attention. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Also I forgot to add that wrong birthday information is also being listed on Google, which is a very big error worldwide. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Do you have any additional questions? Can you please help me remove the incorrect info? I will greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

If birthday and year are wrong, you can just correct them and give a source for the correct value. This is better than just removing a value. Do you have a source for the correct value? --Ameisenigel (talk) 18:51, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

No, there is no correct value, because when it was originally obtained it was from an unreliable website, which has since removed the profile. The information was incorrectly obtained and not checked or verified by Wikipedia. But having the wrong information is more damaging and confusion. It should be removed. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

If the information was incorrectly obtained from an invalid site, (which there are many on Internet) and Wikipedia allows anyone to post anything, why is it so important to have this wrong information remain on Wikipedia because we don't want to delete the "value"? Why should this information remain if it is wrong? Please help me to understand. Thank you. Malibu2020 (talk) 19:13, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bothering you. But can you please let me know the final solutions? It is critical that this incorrect information be removed. Can you please guide me to the right direction and let me know what I need to do. I will be grateful. Thank you. Malibu2020 (talk) 19:26, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I hope I was able to explain the changes clearly. Please let me know how I can remove the wrong birthday information and make other updates. I am currently blocked. Please help. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:52, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Another error is the IMDB ID, which is again is completely wrong, because it is referring to someone else named Armik. Again these corrections are critical and need to be updated. Thank you. Malibu2020 (talk) 18:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Maybe it would be a good idea to mark such values as deprecated. --Ameisenigel (talk) 19:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I will try this. But will this information will be visible and listed on Google? If so, can you please unblock me so I will try this? Thanks again for your help. Malibu2020 (talk) 19:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Also can we just list the actual day and not the year? Saw the birthday on official Facebook page. Malibu2020 (talk) 19:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Your account is not blocked, I have just blocked the IP that has edited the item for a day. If you plan to make edits that may be controversial, you might want to announce them on the talk page. And please do not start an Edit war. As far as I know it is technically not possible do add the birthday without the year. --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:17, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. Yes, I am planning to make further edits properly, because of the critically incorrect information about the artist. The false birthday information is strongly disagreed and every measure will be taken to make this correction happen. Just because someone got a hold of a bogus information from unreliable sources should NOT make the artist profile suffer. I thank you for your help and I will use the talk page as per your suggestion. Malibu2020 (talk) 15:32, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I was wondering since you are an administrator and you have the ability to remove an incorrect content or approve a deletion; what would it take for you to approve this deletion? Would a statement from the artist help? There has to be an easier and faster way to correct this issue. As mentioned before, the incorrect birthday, year and age is causing great damage to the artist profile and creates confusion worldwide. In general what would it take to have this information removed? Malibu2020 (talk) 16:33, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Well, this is nothing that should be decided by administrators. If there is consensus for the removal of statements, you can do it yourself. If there is no consensus, I cannot overrule the decision of the community. --Ameisenigel (talk) 19:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. The facts should remain as facts. Whether the community agrees or doesn't agree should not dictate the facts. The fact in this case is that Armik's birthday is not accurately listed. The information was obtained from very unreliable sources, which have since been removed from the Internet. It lists the artist much older than he actually is. Therefore it should not stay on Wikipedia. This kind of errors damage the artist's profile and create mass confusion. For now, I have changed the ranking as per your suggestion, and if you will not reverse my edit, I would like to delete the section about the birthday and year so that it doesn't come up in the future. But I will wait to hear from you before I take this action. I don't want to go through this edit and have it reversed by someone. I would really appreciate your help to resolve this as fast as possible. Thank you once again. Malibu2020 (talk) 20:11, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I will not revert this, but I can just speak for myself. --Ameisenigel (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I will update it very soon. Malibu2020 (talk) 15:57, 14 January 2022 (UTC)