Wikidata:Property proposal/Dicionário inFormal ID

Dicionário inFormal ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

Not done

Description	identifier for an entry on Dicionário inFormal
Represents	Dicionário inFormal (Q116273055)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	dictionary entry (Q1580166)
Example 1	menino (L669443) → menino
Example 2	taxista (L447872) → taxista
Example 3	chato (L671156) → chato
Example 4	merda (L448068) → merda
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Portuguese lexemes or forms
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://www.dicionarioinformal.com.br/$1/
See also	Infopédia entry (P11485)
Wikidata project	WikiProject Brazil (Q11134020), WikiProject Portugal (Q11142608)

Motivation

Crowdsourced dictionary with relevant lexical information that sometimes isn't available on traditional dictionaries, such as slangs and gender-neutral language. –Guttitto (talk) 04:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Oppose. Unfortunately, it is full of redundant, meaningless or extremely offensive entries. I don't see how this can be useful for the lexemes. Enaldodiscussão 22:50, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See how many times it is linked on ptwiki or even enwikt, it's not a giant usage but I think it is notable enough to deserve an external identifier. I see it as a similar situation to Urban Dictionary, both are crowdsourced, of course not every entry is good. Although the property proposal for Uban Dictionary wasn't done, I think it should be reproposed. The usefulness is precisely on those entries which aren't available on traditional dictionaries, a term being offensive doesn't mean that it isn't a lexical unity, otherwise we wouldn't have merda (L448068) as a lexeme. –guttitto^{(talk · contribs)} 03:22, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not sure it's really much of an ID; it just returns definitions for whatever word you put in the web address. For example, I can try to look up the definition of "Wikidata" (which comes back empty). So I'm not sure about the need for this property when the lemma itself is the ID. --Yirba (talk) 13:14, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense, but we do have many other external IDs for dictionaries that are similar, e.g. Collins Online English Dictionary entry (P11230), Dicionário Priberam ID (P11526), The Britannica Dictionary entry (P11263) and Merriam-Webster online dictionary entry (P11130). –guttitto^{(talk · contribs)} 16:32, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done, no consensus of proposed property at this time based on the above discussion. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]