Wikidata:Property proposal/TeatralRo ID

TeatralRo play/theater ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: teatral.ro ID (P9202) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier on the www.teatral.ro website
Represents	Teatral.ro (Q105002945)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	external_links; id_teatralro
Domain	play (Q2430899), performing arts production (Q43099500), spectacle (Q224530), theatre company (Q11812394)
Allowed values	`(piesa\|teatru)\/[a-z\d]+(-[a-z\d]+)*`
Example 1	TaRaTaTam (Q90890307) → piesa/dale-noastre-teatrul-national
Example 2	Uppercase Print (Q88384988) → piesa/tipografic-majuscul-teatrul-odeon
Example 3	Odeon Theatre (Q559214) → teatru/teatrul-odeon
Example 4	National Theatre Bucharest "Ion Luca Caragiale" (Q1138828) → teatru/teatrul-national
Source	https://www.teatral.ro
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Mix'n'match	unimported
Planned use	as authority control and identifier: Wikidata property to identify organizations (Q21745557)
Number of IDs in source	hundreds plays + 36 theatre companies
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.teatral.ro/$1
Country	Romania (Q218)
See also	Alternativa Teatral work ID (P5808)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Teatral.ro (Q105002945)
Type constraint – instance of	organization (Q43229)
Type constraint – subclass of	audiovisual work (Q2431196)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Theatre (Q14942918), WikiProject Romania (Q11509515) - `{{Romania properties}}`

Motivation

Property for theatre companies, theatrical productions, stage actors, authors & other cast members included in teatral.ro, a theater database in Romanian. Coagulans (talk) 10:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Split: Property for theatre companies, theatrical productions included in teatral.ro, a theater database in Romanian.- Coagulans (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Question Is (teatru|piesa|artist)\/\S{1,128} (allowed values) right for you as RegEx? —Eihel (talk) 08:58, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Answer RegEx is somehow out of my skills, but it looks fine, thank you. - Coagulans (talk) 20:03, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the Founder - Coagulans (talk) 14:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support —Eihel (talk) 17:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Coagulans: Done teatral.ro ID (P9202) —Eihel (talk) 05:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Theatre

TeatralRo artist ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Not done

Description	identifier on the www.teatral.ro website
Represents	Teatral.ro (Q105002945)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	external_links; id_teatralro
Domain	human (Q5), actor (Q33999), author (Q482980), theatre designer (Q26869657), cast member (Q3297652)
Allowed values	`[a-z\d]+(-[a-z\d]+)*`
Example 1	Albert Camus (Q34670) → albert-camus
Example 2	Dorina Lazăr (Q12726962) → dorina-lazar
Example 3	Eugène Ionesco (Q46706) → eugene-ionesco
Example 4	1-Q Sapro (Q105474889) → 1-q-sapro
Source	https://www.teatral.ro
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Mix'n'match	to be imported
Planned use	as authority control and identifier: Wikidata property for authority control for people (Q19595382), Wikidata property for authority control for artists (Q55653847)
Number of IDs in source	thousands
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.teatral.ro/artist/$1
Country	Romania (Q218)
See also	Alternativa Teatral person ID (P5807)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Teatral.ro (Q105002945)
Type constraint – instance of	human (Q5)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Theatre (Q14942918), WikiProject Romania (Q11509515) - `{{Romania properties}}`

Motivation

Property for stage actors, authors & other cast members included in teatral.ro, a theater database in Romanian. - Coagulans (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Initial oppose I had put in summary that the two identifiers should be similar: with artist (and the URL without). —Eihel (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why similar identifiers? There are about two different properties. - Coagulans (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ids come from the same place, so why not the same ids. Putting a more precise RegEx also prevents putting bad ids (as vandals like to do for example). 1 property, then 2, but not 3 ?! But this is not a blocking criterion for a creation. —Eihel (talk) 03:24, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not 3 PP, because only the theatre companies in the capital of the country are listed (36). - Coagulans (talk) 06:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Initial oppose @Coagulans: I might miss a point (for which I am sorry), but can’t we slightly modify teatral.ro ID (P9202) to handle artists as well? --Emu (talk)
Well, there was only 1 proposal for the 3 entities and it worked. The reply provided does not satisfy me: if there are so few ids why make several proposals? Precisely, this is yet another reason to return to the initial proposal. —Eihel (talk) 19:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Coagulans, Eihel: Not done Lack of consensus for creation and clear alternative: I changed teatral.ro ID (P9202) to accommodate people. If you are unhappy with this: Remember that proposal discussions end without prejudice, so a new proposal can always be made if the need arises. --Emu (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ok. As for ids quantity, here there is a split request for a similar PP. - Coagulans (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]