Wikidata:Property proposal/name shares origin with
name shares origin with
editOriginally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Term
| Description | Name with which the subject shares a linguistic origin |
|---|---|
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | Human names (personal or surname) |
| Example | Dikkers (Q28133204) ←→ Dicker (Q21502285) |
| See also | named after (P138), said to be the same as (P460), partially coincident with (P1382), different from (P1889) |
- Motivation
Proposing because I can't identify a particularly appropriate existing property to express this relationship. named after (P138) is a one-way relationship, and is useful only when the namesake is known and has an item. said to be the same as (P460) is the best I can figure to use, and I don't think it really does the job. Thoughts? Swpb (talk) 15:58, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support I've thought about this a little. You could maybe do it indirectly if two names shared a named after (P138) but that wouldn't really apply in cases like the example. A different approach might be to have a "canonical version of name" property that links the unusual form of the name with the more normal form, if one is rare and the other common. But that might be better handled just by entering additional the rare name as an alias on the common one. So I support this proposal. ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Question Does your proposal cover Smith (Q1158446) ==> metalsmith (Q838566) and Zimmermann (Q5994029) ==> carpenter (Q154549)? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:17, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- No. Those cases would be covered by named after (P138). The proposed property links two names with the same origin; it does not link names to their origin. That's what named after (P138) is for. Swpb (talk) 14:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
- No. Those cases would be covered by named after (P138). The proposed property links two names with the same origin; it does not link names to their origin. That's what named after (P138) is for. Swpb (talk) 14:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
