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Property:P133

Bonjour Visite fortuitement prolongée, j'ai vu que tu avais effectué des changements sur la propriété 133 est donc sur les pages qui l'utilisent (par exemple Q813549). J'avais rempli les propriétés de quelques dizaines de langues et toutes les propritétés P133 sont donc probablement à revoir. Si j'ai bien compris, il faut utiliser P361 à la place de l'ancienne utilisation de P133 ; c'est bien ça ? Pamputt (talk) 14:26, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Bonjour,

Votre interprétation est correcte, sauf que l'utilisation de P361 est transitoires, comme c'est visible dans Wikidata talk:Languages task force#Relating languages.

De plus, je viens de passer sur toutes les fiches utilisant P133, donc il faut juste vérifier que je n'ai pas commis ou laissé d'erreur. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Greek (Q9129)

What's the idea of deleting correct information? Infovarius (talk) 13:47, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

To Infovarius: In order to decrease Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P219#Unique value, Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P219#Single value, Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P220#Unique value, Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P220#Single value. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:35, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

@Infovarius: So what is your opinion about those not very accurate language codes? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:58, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Aha, I see. It should be solved. Firstly, I suppose that P219 should not have "single value" constraint. And non-unique values show that there can be interwiki conflict. I'll think about greek languages. --Infovarius (talk) 14:04, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

ISO 639-2 code (P219)

Why have you removed many values? For example, "ine" as I believe means "inexistent language" and so is ok if duplicate. Infovarius (talk) 20:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

So I suppose that "non-unique value" constraint is also not valid and should be removed. And deleted values should be restored (may be after some checking). Infovarius (talk) 21:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

@ Infovarius : "ine" mean "Indo-European languages". It is a generic code, acceptable for an infobox (there are plenty in the french language wikipedia), but inapropriate in Wikidata item in my opinion. Most of my other recent delection of ISO 639-2 code where the same. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:31, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I oppose. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:31, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Why do you think it's inappropriate for Wikidata? --Infovarius (talk) 09:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

@ Infovarius : Because wikidata should (in my opinion) store the canonical/specific property, not a generic property (like "ine" for the hundreds of Indo-European languages and dialects). Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

This is not argument: instance of (P31) is not so specific too :) --Infovarius (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

In my opinion,

• Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-2 code (P219) ∅; Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-3 code (P220) osc;

is better than

• Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-2 code (P219) ine; Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-3 code (P220) osc;

because it show only the canonical code. Do you want to discuss that in Wikidata talk:Languages task force? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 18:28, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

PS I found Help:Qualifiers. Would you agree to

• Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-2 code (P219) ine (qualifier property Pgeneric code: yes); Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-3 code (P220) osc;

? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, qualifiers are good. But how do you know where is "specific" and where is "generic"(canonical) code? I don't see it in the standard. Infovarius (talk) 17:20, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

\__ Well, this seems obvious to me. The standard say that "ine" means "Indo-European languages" (canonical), that "osc" means "Osque language" (canonical), but does not say that "ine" means "Osque language". As far as I know, Oscan (Q36653) ISO 639-2 code (P219) ine is not in the standard. If "ine" is added to Osque (or Umbrian), it is only as a generic code. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

• I see that osc is not 639-2 code and ine is not 639-2 code of any language. So now I am convinced too that this code is inappropriate. Infovarius (talk) 14:36, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

some tools

Hi Visite fortuitement prolongée! You may add more help tools to user:Visite fortuitement prolongée/common.js . See User:Rotsaert8000 (in Esperanto). Good luck gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 13:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Constraints

Why are you deleting P220 and P282 requirements? --Infovarius (talk) 20:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Because they are not accurate requirements as far as I know. ISO must not assign an ISO 639-2 code for every language, and mentionning the writing system is not a requisite for having a number of speakers or an ISO 639-3 code. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 22:28, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate items

Hi Visite fortuitement prolongée, I see you ran into some duplicate items and added a local link. No need to do that. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Merge: This script adds a tool for merging items". If you have two items you can just merge them together. The gadget will copy all the contents, empty the item and redirect it. Multichill (talk) 22:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

2015-03 lien Wikipédia alternatif

Concernant le « Bonnie and Clyde problem » (dont j'ai récement découvert l'intitulé), des candidats pour l'éventuelle propriété Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic#Redirect to :

• Kumandin (Q15293859) => Northern Altai (Q2640863); Balanta-Ganja (Q19359034) => Balanta (Q35006); et les cas du même genre. Une partie peut être trouvée avec P134 (P134).
• Haswell (Q18660382) => Haswell (Q59069) etc.
• Intel Core M (Q19509695) => list of Intel Core M microprocessors (Q18716331);
• Yonah (Q3572526) => Intel Core (Q19481932); Intel Core (Q19481932) => Yonah (Q3572526);
• Intel Core Solo (Q1665598) => Intel Core (Q19481932); Intel Core 2 Duo (Q4036548) => Core 2 (Q216334) etc.
• Intel Core 3/5/7/9 series (Q12364601) => Intel Core (Q1097357);
• First Battle of Donetsk Airport (Q17001322) => Battle of Donetsk Airport (Q18536369);

Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 17:38, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Les items de type duplicate entry (Q1263068), et peut-être said to be the same as (P460). Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:22, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Rotating locomotion in living systems

Can you please tell me why you removed these entries? Thanks, Swpb (talk) 15:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: 2015-05 en label

I think that is a bug with automatic creation label for English. For example, I created category on commons and then on the left side "add links" and add link to sr article [1], I didn't put any English label on it. --Djordjes (talk) 22:37, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

V/STOL, STOL, & VTOL classification

For the purposes of subclass of (P279), none of these should be subclasses of each other. Each are their own subclass of takeoff and landing (Q20046585).

• short takeoff and landing aircraft (Q832489) - aircraft which use a short runway for takeoff and landing (ex. Fieseler Fi 156 Storch (Q156894)
• vertical take off and landing aircraft (Q320599) - aircraft which use no runway for takeoff and landing, doing so vertically (ex. Tiger (Q159601))
• vertical and/or short take-off and landing (Q1193453) - aircraft which can both use a short runway for takeoff and landing, as well as do so vertically if need be (ex. McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II (Q635687))

Not all short takeoff and landing aircraft (Q832489) aircraft are capable of vertical take off and landing aircraft (Q320599) so the former cannot be a subclass of the later.

Not all vertical take off and landing aircraft (Q320599) aircraft are capable of short takeoff and landing aircraft (Q832489) so the former cannot be a subclass of the later.

Since neither all vertical take off and landing aircraft (Q320599) aircraft, nor all short takeoff and landing aircraft (Q832489) aircraft are capable of both, neither are a proper subclass of vertical and/or short take-off and landing (Q1193453).

There could be a case made that vertical and/or short take-off and landing (Q1193453) should be a subclass of vertical take off and landing aircraft (Q320599) and short takeoff and landing aircraft (Q832489), but the reverse should definitely not be true.

For further discussion, see the discussion at WP Aviation. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 17:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Q36846

Hello. Toki pona is a constructed language, according to ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3 such languages are marked with code "art". If anyone would like to use Wikidata/Wikipedia to check how to officialy mark toki pona text, I assume it would be correct to direct them to using of overall code for constructed languages as marker. Do you disagree? Thanks, Eugene.--EUvin (talk) 10:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Of course I disagree: I deleted the 2 Statement 3 day ago. By the way, where in ISO 639-3 did you see the code "art"? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

The purpose of the ISO 639 code is to mark the language, or, if not possible, the language cathegory. Toki pona is a language. How one would mark it if this is the language has no ISO 639 code? How one would mark the text in this language if this would be required for e.g. a library? Either by self-made code, or using the standard group marker for artificial languages. "art" is that kind of code. Here's "art" for Artificial on the SIL site. Do you have objections for that? --EUvin (talk) 00:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Root of all languages

There are already several items which can play a role of the highest class: languoid (Q17376908), your human language (Q20162172), may be some part of language family (Q25295). Why to create once more? I've already lost among language (Q315)/language (Q34770)/language (Q4113741) (look at ru-labels!) and now you are messing things with classification... May be we should imaging the classification prior to global changes? --Infovarius (talk) 09:52, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

"Why to create once more? [...] you are messing things with classification..." --> No. You messed with Special:Diff/225213130 and Special:Diff/225648524, forcing me to create a new item. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:08, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Juillet 2015

• Comparer
  • https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q695526&diff=prev&oldid=124329508
  • https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6695526&diff=prev&oldid=189567346
• Conclure.
• Chercher des évènements similaires.

Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

ok. je vois ce qui s'est passé. on m'avait déjà signalé le problème mais je n'avais pas trouver d'erreurs dans mon bot. Apparemment, l'api a buggué pendant quelques heures le 1 mai 2014. Heureusement, à première vue il n'y a qu'une centaine d'éléments impactés. je vais faire la correction manuellement dès que possible. Encore merci. User:Thieol (talk) 02:24, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Q20643070

Can you please explain me the purpose of Q20643070? It has no label and I'm not able to deduce the meaning of the item. --Pasleim (talk) 20:38, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I guess that you can delete it. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok. I asked for deletion. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

ISO 693-3 for Bihari

According to w:en:ISO_639:b the ISO-639-3 code for Bihari is bih. Why did you remove that statement? According to Property talk:P218 any item with ISO 639-1 code (P218) also needs a ISO 639-3 code (P220). And by removing the statement you created a constraint violation, which I solved earlier today. Mbch331 (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Mbch331 According to http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=bih, bih is not an ISO-639-3 code. The rest is up to you. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:40, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

ISO 639-3 = mis

According to http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=mis it is a valid umbrella code for uncoded languages. Why did you remove it? --Infovarius (talk) 14:40, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Because it looks good. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:06, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

There is "mis" in reliable source (ISO), and there is no "no value", so I believe we should use "mis". --Infovarius (talk) 05:47, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

• "mis" is a generic ("better than nothing") code. There is no way to tell Wikidata or Wikidata clients that "mis" is a generic data (as far as I now).
• "mis" can be added to many items (like if you where adding P220 "rus" to dialects of russian-language). This violate "Unique value" constraint of P220.

Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:09, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

That's correct. But these are technical problems, not semantical. Is it (semantically, logically) wrong to assign P220 "rus" to dialects of russian-language? --Infovarius (talk) 13:33, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Yes. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't thinks so. There are ISO 639 codes which are used for macrolanguages. --Infovarius (talk) 05:56, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

So what? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:03, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

So the only problem is in constraint violation? We can remove it, or refine it (adding codes for macrofamilies and "mis" as exceptions). --Infovarius (talk) 15:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

PProposal

Hi Visite fortuitement prolongée,

Not sure if you have seen my comment at PProposals. --- Jura 10:33, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Of course I have seen it: you pinged me. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:14, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Sometimes those notifications get cut off .. anyways, why don't you support or oppose any of the other proposals? --- Jura 07:05, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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Switching Commonscat links from article-items to category-items

I am not sure that edits like this diff 1 diff 2 are helpful.

Most Commons users appear to prefer their categories to link to article-items here, rather than category-items. It also makes templates somewhat more efficient, if they can draw directly from an article item, rather than having to first identify the item then access it via arbitrary access. Jheald (talk) 21:16, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Daniele Ganser (Q124784)

Hi there. About this. The German Wikipedia has a very long article about Daniele Ganser. There is no consensus that he is a conspiracy theorist (Verschwörungstheoretiker in German). As long there is no consensus about this I suggest to remove it. Thanks. --KurtR (talk) 20:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

• Here is Wikidata, not german language Wikipedia. And Aargauer Zeitung (Q301273) say that Daniele Ganser is conspiracy theorist. And about 911, D.G. do as a conspiracy theorist. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

The source that you give doesn't call him a conspiracy theorist, but a “conspiracy mystic”. They explicitly say it would make sense to renounce this label for him:

“Ganser und Konsorten lehnen es ab, als «Verschwörungstheoretiker» bezeichnet zu werden. Dies sei zu einem abwertenden Kampfbegriff gegen sie geworden. Darauf zu verzichten, macht durchaus Sinn, wenn auch aus anderen Gründen: Der Begriff «Verschwörungstheoretiker» würde beinhalten, ihre Szenarien beruhten auf einer wissenschaftlich fundierten Theorie. Treffender ist die Bezeichnung «Verschwörungsmystiker», da sich ihre Weisheiten letztlich in überweltlichen Geisteswelten findet.”

In English: “Ganser and his cohorts decline being called ‘conspiracy theorists’. They say this had become a derogatory slogan used against them. Renouncing it does in fact make sense, albeit for other reasons: The term ‘conspiracy theorist’ would imply that their scenarios were based on a scientifically substantiated theory. More fitting is the term ‘conspiracy mystic’, because their wisdom is ultimately based on transcendent intellectual/spiritual [not entirely sure how to translate "Geisteswelten" here] worlds.”

So this article cannot be used as a proof that he is a conspiracy theorist, even when we ignore that it's a journalistic and not a scientific text. In my opinion only the latter could justify the attribution. (The author Christian Mensch, born 1964, studied History and German but works as a journalist since 1993 [2], so he does not qualify as a scientist, either.) --Gamba (talk) 07:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for coming here.

What is your opinion about Michael Butter's book ? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:04, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I fail to add reference URL (P854) urn:ISBN:978-3-518-07360-5 Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:06, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Je me suis débrouillée autrement. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:37, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

2018-10 remarque

Visiblement French Wikipedia (Q8447) n'est pas géné d'utiliser comme sources des sites web d'extrême droite (tels ojim.fr et lesobservateurs.ch). Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:17, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

2018-11 remarque

Visiblement French Wikipedia (Q8447) n'est pas gêné que w:fr:Modèle:Infobox Langue soit en partie cassé depuis plusieurs années. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Corrigé par w:fr:special:diff/157032015. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Néologisme incompréhensible

Bonjour User:Visite fortuitement prolongée, le néologisme 'conspirationniste', catégorie 'occupation' ne veut rien dire en l'état. Est ce une personne qui conspire ou complote? Non, c'est quelqu'un qui croit et articule une théorie du complot. Avec la formulation 'conspirationniste', l'infobox Biographie2 liée à wikidata est inutilisable. Il est nécéssaire comme le font les autres langues de clarifier pour compréhension.--DDupard (talk) 06:34, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour,

« le néologisme 'conspirationniste' » => Tous les noms francophones de Q19831149 (« conspirationniste », « théoricien du complot », « complotiste », « théoricien conspirationniste ») sont des néologismes et n'apparaissaient pas dans les dictionnaires il y a 20 ans. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

« 'conspirationniste' [...] ne veut rien dire en l'état » => Et les autres noms ? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

« Avec la formulation 'conspirationniste', l'infobox Biographie2 liée à wikidata est inutilisable. » => Et avec les autres noms ? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

J'ai peur que vous ne compreniez pas le concept de Q19831149 vu special:diff/896982125. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Avez vous regardé Q312519#P106 ? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

« Il est nécéssaire comme le font les autres langues de clarifier pour compréhension. » => En faisant quoi ? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

old software version?

Hello,

can you explain to me what this edit is good for? Wefa (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

2019-06 comptes jetables

Pour rappel (de User:Darkoneko). Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Bat Ye'or

Bat Ye'or n'a jamais eu l'intention d'être la pionnière sur quoi que ce soit, ni une ultra de quoi que ce soit, elle n'est qu'une lanceuse d'alerte parmi tant d'autres. Et c'est une grave insulte à son égard (telle qu'exprimée dans l'article de Wikipédia sous son nom) que de la traiter de complotiste au sens péjoratif, alors que le complot existe, celui entamé par l'islam pour instaurer la charia dans tous les pays musulmans par le traité du Caire de 1990 (voir https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9claration_des_droits_de_l%27homme_en_islam) et pire éradiquer la civilisation occidentale pour la remplacer par une société intégralement soumise à la charia comme l'ensemble de l'humanité sur la planète tel qu'explicitement exprimé lors du sommet de Doha de l'année 2000 (voir https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_islamique_pour_l%27%C3%A9ducation,_les_sciences_et_la_culture ). Et ce n'est pas la référence que vous me faîtes lire et propage les insultes qui peuvent à mon sens être crédibles et prises comme paroles d'évangile. DidCORN (talk) 21:04, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Anders Behring Breivik

I feel like having both terrorist, mass murder and spree killer as occupation was too many considering the high amount of overlap between all three. --Trade (talk) 22:09, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

This doesn't seem a convincing motive. Occupation overlap is not an issue in my opinion. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

QQ66481199

You have added subclass of Phenom II to AMD Phenom II X6 1090T (Q66481199). I don't think that this is correct. subclass of is narrower description of a certain topic. Eg. cars and electric cars. electric cars would be a subclass of cars since it just a more accurate description. instance of on the other hand is a concrete example of a class or subclass. Eg. Tesla Model S is not a subclass but an instance of electric cars. At least as far as I know. What do you think about that? --D-Kuru (talk) 08:02, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

As far as I understand Help:Basic membership properties

• USS Nimitz (Q463161) "is an individual", "is a specific example", is a concrete example, is an instance (P31), of aircraft carrier (Q17205) and Nimitz-class aircraft carrier (Q309336), which are classes;
• Wilberforce (Q1759652) is an instance (P31) of house cat (Q146), which is a class;

therefore an actual AMD Phenom II X6 1090T in a computer is a concrete example and instance of (P31) of AMD Phenom II X6 1090T (Q66481199), which is a class. Feel free to ask for advice to other contributors, such in Wikidata talk:WikiProject Informatics, Help talk:Basic membership properties or Wikidata:Project chat. See also https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tree.html?q=Q5297&rp=279&lang=de . Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:04, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

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Conspirationnisme

Dans un blog il y a deux mois vous avez écrit « As a Wikipedia editor, I would be happy to see evidences that Eurabia "is real & not a paranoid conspiracy theory". »
Cela est-il sérieux ? Valp (talk) 15:21, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Oui c'est sérieux. Accessoirement, ce n'est pas dans un blog mais dans un forum. C'est une de vos nombreuses erreurs, montrant que vous avez de réelles difficultés à trier et comprendre les informations écrites. Je suis d'ailleurs encore estomaquée que vous ayez écrit il y a une semaine que je "justifie [un truc] par une phrase-alinéa d'un article de Rehov dans Le Figaro du 1/03/2018 (ici) disant, je cite intégralement cet alinéa : « Selon l'historienne et essayiste Bat Ye'or, auteur d’Eurabia et de Dhimmitude, toute critique de l'islam devait désormais être bannie et sanctionnée par les pays occidentaux participant à l'APCEA. »" alors que je n'ai jamais écrit cela. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:30, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Laissons l'accessoire, concentrons-nous sur le sujet. Il s'agit de causalité. Il y a des effets et nous recherchons des causes, c'est une fonction naturelle. Or, pour un effet donné, comme l'apparente islamisation de l'Europe, si est assignée une cause qui est un COMPLOT et SECRET, alors on dit que c'est une théorie du complot.
Maintenant, si l'on peut démontrer que l'élément causal est non un COMPLOT mais une campagne de communication avec classique lobbying, et que loin d'être SECRÈTE cette campagne est publique et même officielle sous certains aspects :
admettrez-vous qu'alors cette explication causale n'est PAS une "théorie du complot" ? Valp (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Je ne suis pas payée pour vous former de A à Z. Si vous connaissez des preuves que Eurabia est réelle, alors donnez-les. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:21, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

« Si c'est fondé sur des principes on peut discuter, sinon non. » C'est pourquoi je réitère ma question. Admettez-vous ce principe logique ou non ? Valp (talk) 22:27, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

@Valp: La phrase entre guillemets ci-dessus est-elle une citation ? Si oui, alors d'où vient-elle ? Si non, alors pourquoi l'avoir entourée de guillemets comme si c'était une citation ? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

2019-10 bibliothèque

Une femme se fait expulser d'une bibliothèque sans explication. Plus tard, elle revient et trouve l'entrée bouchée par plusieurs hommes avec des brassard « sécurité ». Elle leur demande ce qu'elle doit faire pour pouvoir entrer. Ils ne répondent pas. Elle insiste, plusieurs fois. Ils se mettent à rire entre eux. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 10:03, 19 October 2019 (UTC) Ils apellent la police pour se plaindre de harcèllement. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 10:18, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

• J'ai créé mon compte Wikipédia en 2009 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e
• J'ai envoyé des messages dans https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Requ%C3%AAte_aux_administrateurs et ça s'est mal passé à chaque fois
• Entre 2009 et 2015, j'ai été bloquée plusieurs fois dans https://fr.wikipedia.org/ Au début je demandais des explications dans ma page d'utilisateur, mais n'ayant jamais de réponse j'ai fini par arréter.
• J'ai été victime d'une extortion par le salon de médiation de https://fr.wikipedia.org/ en février 2015. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_salon_de_m%C3%A9diation/Archive_2015#Demande_de_m%C3%A9diation_sur_Turc_ottoman
• En mai 2015 mon compte fut bloqué en écriture indef dans https://fr.wikipedia.org/ sans explication.
• J'ai plusieurs fois demandé des explications là dessus dans https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Requ%C3%AAte_aux_administrateurs sans résultat.
• En juillet 2017 j'ai tenté dans https://www.wikidata.org/ de prendre contact avec un contremaître de https://fr.wikipedia.org/ ; j'ai reçu des menaces https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:H%C3%A9g%C3%A9sippe_Cormier&diff=prev&oldid=521344277
• En octobre 2019 j'ai tenté dans https://www.wikidata.org/ de prendre contact avec des sysops de https://fr.wikipedia.org/
  • J'ai reçu des menaces cf. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive/2019/10#Blockage_or_warning_-_Visite_fortuitement_prolong%C3%A9e
  • https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Bulletin_des_administrateurs/2019/Semaine_42#Rions_un_peu
• J'ai été bloquée 3 jours dans https://fr.wiktionary.org/ en juin 2020 dans des circonstances similaires.
• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Topic:Twfcqc7dksd13b6d
• J'ai reçu des menaces dans https://meta.wikimedia.org/ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat/Archives/2019-05#Help_about_frwiki
• J'ai envoyé un courrier électronique à info-fr@wikim.. ; il fut « déplacé vers le dossier spam » d'après un participant à cette structure.

Dhegiha et Aucassin (deux pilliers du https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Langues ) ont cessé de contribuer à https://fr.wikipedia.org/ , mais ça la communauté de fr.wikipedia s'en moque.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake n'est plus enrichi depuis plusieurs années et https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Cove n'a même pas été créé, mais ça la communauté de fr.wikipedia s'en moque. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Humboldt, Womtelo, Mutichou et Ji-Elle ne contribuent aux articles de langue que faiblement. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:20, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

2019-11 Hicham Hamza

Si une nouvelle fiche est créée sur Hicham Hamza, la fusionner avec Q75158470. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 14:58, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

2020-02 demande de preuves

En tant que contributrice à Wikipédia, je serais heureuse de voir des preuves que Eurabia « est réelle et n'est pas une thèse conspirationniste et paranoïaque ». Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 11:14, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

annulation de l'alias "Onfray" sur Q7060

commentaire sur l'annulation de l'ajout d'un alias "Onfray" sur Q7060: vu qu'il n'y a pas de restriction à ce que plusieurs éléments aient le même alias, je trouve pratique d'ajouter certains nom de famille en alias d'éléments human (Q5), quand ce nom seul est utilisé dans le débat public pour désigner l'humain en question ("Deleuze", "Taubira", "Zidane", "Himmler", etc). Cela facilite grandement la recherche/l'auto-complétion (d'autant plus quand on ne se rappelle plus du prénom ;)), et si plusieurs éléments ont ce même alias, ces plusieurs éléments sortiront dans les résultats d'une recherche sur le seul nom, ce qui n'est pas plus mal. -- Maxlath (talk) 09:11, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

2020-05 remarque technique

Depuis que je ne contribue plus aux articles de la Wikipédia fr sur l'informatique, non seulement j'ai été remplacée immédiatement, mais le rythme de production a augmenté !

• w:fr:Zen (microarchitecture)
• w:fr:Skylake
• w:fr:Sunny Cove
• w:fr:Willow Cove

[3] Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 17:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

"Occupation : conspirationniste"

Bonjour, j'avais initié sur cette page une discussion concernant la mention "conspirationniste" qui ne me semble pas être une occupation. Quel est ton point de vue à ce sujet ? Merci, Korg (talk) 20:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

2020-07 Remarques

Donc si une personne ajoute dans w:fr:judaïsme que les Juifs forment une race d'Untermenschen, sourcé par un grand quotidien allemand de 1938, alors cela ne pourra pas être supprimé car il ne faut « pas supprimer les paragraphes sourcés. » Génial. VFP20180413 (discuter) 13 avril 2018 à 22:17 (CEST)

« se contente d'effacer des pans entiers d'article »

mensonge

« en justifiant par l'absence de consensus en PDD, alors que le sujet n'y a pas été évoqué. »

men-songe

Donc après le CU qui ment, voilà l'administrateur qui ment. VFP20180413 (discuter) 13 avril 2018 à 22:17 (CEST)

Politiquement correct

Bonjour, je ne vois pas en quoi le politiquement correct est une notion liée à l'extrême droite. Ainsi en 2000, Jean-Luc Mélenchon se félicite de l'élection de Ken Livingstone à Londres , il y a peu Françoise Nyssen dans le JDD affirme "Nous vivons dans une société pétrie de politiquement correct" et Jacques Derrida revendiquait le politiquement correct comme moyen de lutter pour une éthique défendant les plus faibles (je simplifie...). Que l'extrême droite en France et les néo-conservateurs américains se soient emparés de la notion pour tenter d'imposer leurs vues ne signifie pas qu'ils en sont propriétaires. Amicalement, --Olivier Tanguy (talk) 21:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

De même il suffit de voir que dans les 150 signataires d'une tribune condamnant un climat d'intolérance qui apparaît avec les luttes légitimes pour la reconnaissance des droits des minorités, on trouve le nom de Noam Chomsky (qu'on qualifierait difficilement d'auteur d'extrême droite) ou Wynton Marsalis, le lien entre cancel culture et extrême droite devient moins évident. --Olivier Tanguy (talk) 21:37, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Enfin le ouin ouin on ne peut plus rien dire, pour moi c'est du vandalisme. --Olivier Tanguy (talk) 21:40, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

• Unfortunately I can not discuss with you here, I am forbidden to by several fr Wikipedia foremen. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

2020-09 testimony

I am on low edit rate because I am bullied and threatened by several foremen of fr Wikipedia. See for example wikidata:User talk:Visite fortuitement prolongée#2019-10 bibliothèque or wikidata:User talk:Jules* or meta:Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat/Archives/2019-05#Help about frwiki. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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2020-10 Q68358070

Pour mémoire, sur la couverture de la première édition, sous le titre :

Ce livre décrit la transformation de l’Europe en "Eurabia", une extension culturelle et politique du monde arabo-musulman. Eurabia est fondamentalement antichrétienne, antioccidentale, antiaméricaine et antisémite. L’institution responsable de cette transformation est le Dialogue euro-arabe, souvent déguisé sous le terme Dialogue euro-Méditerranée.

—Bat Ye'or, Eurabia : l'axe euro-arabe, 2006

Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

collectif Némésis (Q101003175)

Bonjour,

has the above item any website? I couldn't find any hint for its existence. Kind regards.-- U. M. Owen (talk) 15:15, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

I could only identify Valérie Plante (Q27959212). That correct?--U. M. Owen (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)