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Openaccess CMA bot blockedEdit

Hi Multichill. My name's Ethan Holda and I'm the director of technology at Cleveland Museum of Art. Our bot and our user were permanently blocked for adding "junk" to wikidata. The bot code was developed by Dominic Byrd-McDevitt to help us get our artwork scholarship and assets into wikidata. Since we've been blocked, I can't even apply for permissions. Can you tell me the next step here? --Ethanholda (talk) 14:54, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ethanholda: yes User:Openaccess cma was running wild, unclear who was running it and wasn't approved (I did think of Dominic). In case of a bot a block is just a technical measure to prevent more damage (that can be lifted any time, don't worry about that). Sorry for calling it junk, that was a bit too harsh.
Dominic should have gone through the bot approval process before he handed it over to you.
The concern is with item of collection or exhibition (Q18593264). This item shouldn't be used at all, see Talk:Q18593264. You generally don't want to add things that just have been removed by a user. Also some other improvements might be needed (like not overwriting descriptions with descriptions that are not better). Is the code somewhere public?
When it comes to robots you have the operator, for example me user:Multichill and the robot, for example user:BotMultichill. The operator (you) should be the one applying at Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot. Can you do that? I can imagine that you want to wait a bit and do it in the new year. If you just disable the job for now I can lift the block. Multichill (talk) 15:14, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
When we were developing our workflow for this, we also worked with Maarten ... and Andrew Lih (among others in the community), so I would really like to better understand what you are referring to with "running wild" and the overwriting of descriptions. Again, all our content comes from our curatorial department's scholarship. So two questions 1. How can we get our bot unblocked? (since I cannot submit a request from the bot's owner) and 2. What was the exact behavior of the bot that was problematic? --Ethanholda (talk) 17:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Ethan, I rarely use my given name (Maarten) around here.
A robot is a tool like a chainsaw or a gun. A tool needs to have an operator who is responsible for the tool. If the tool doesn't have an operator it's running wild.
  1. The tool is currently blocked from editing, but you're not. As I mentioned before, the operator (that is you) needs to apply at Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot to get the bot unblocked.
  2. The problematic behavior I have encountered is the adding of item of collection or exhibition (Q18593264) after it was removed (example) and changing descriptions to something worse (see Help:Description).
Multichill (talk) 12:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Multichill Sorry! I didn't realize it was you. I'm kind of just trying to figure all this stuff out because previously it has been other developers managing this, so apologies in advance for any rudimentary mistakes. Regarding your points:
  1. My understanding was that openaccess_cma was the operator and the bot itself is openaccess_cma_bot. And as such, openaccess_cma needed to be the account to submit the request for openaccess_cma_bot. Am I misunderstanding the relationship between these two accounts? Both accounts are blocked. From what I am understanding, I can submit the request as Ethanholda. Is that correct?
  2. How is the problem of adding items that have been removed or updating descriptions usually handled? what I'm hearing is that I need to resolve these issues before the bot can be reinstated, or I'll just get blocked again.
Best, --Ethanholda (talk) 16:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year! I'd like to edit our code and resubmit with myself as the operator, but I'm not sure what changes to make. My understanding is using a different item type, but I want to make sure I'm understanding and addressing your concerns before proceeding. Can you recommend the next step? --Ethanholda (talk) 23:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
@Ethanholda: I'm waiting for you to file a bot request at Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot. Multichill (talk) 15:40, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Caspar Kern (Q65944303) en RKD image 182890Edit

Beste Multichill, je hebt een bewerking van mij (terecht) teruggedraaid: ik had de RKD-images afbeelding 182890 gekoppeld aan Caspar Kern (Q65944303), maar niet op de juiste manier. Nu heb ik het hopelijk wel op de goede manier gedaan; laat het me s.v.p. weten als het toch anders moet. Indien je twijfelt aan de juistheid van de identificatie van de babyfoto: er is maar één persoon met de naam Johan Hendrik Caspar Kern en geboortedatum 19 januari 1919. Bedankt! — CvZ (talk) 16:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@CvZ: ik ben zo te zien vergeten te reageren. Ik denk dat zo wel een mooi oplossing is. Je kan natuurlijk ook gewoon item voor de foto aanmaken en dan ben je er helemaal van af. Multichill (talk) 15:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

P4765 bij alba amicorumEdit

Hallo Multichill, ik ben momenteel bezig (bij de KB) met data rondom alba amicorum. We (@1Veertje, @Olafjanssen en ik) zijn bezig de bijdrages van 800+ alba van de KB op wikidata te plaatsen met als uiteindelijke doel een apart front-end te bouwen om door de alba te bladeren. Een van de properties die ik (na een tip van @Hannolans) aan de alba-bijdragen heb toegevoegd is Commons compatible image available at URL (P4765) wanneer de afbeelding zich (bv) op de KB-resolver bevindt; zie hier bij het testitem AAHvHtS-005 Contribution of Cornelius Buys (Q104033444). Ik begreep dat als ik dan alle verplichte qualfiers en properties invulde, de afbeelding door jouw bot op Commons gezet zouden kunnen worden. (Er is in ieder geval 1 wat dubieuze toevoeging van mijn kant (instance of (P31) = work of art (Q838948)) maar dat is even voor testredenen.) Zou je me kunnen laten weten of de informatie bij dit testitem op dit moment voldoende is om de afbeelding automatisch door jouw bot op Commons te laten plaatsen? Of zijn er bepaalde zaken die ik over het hoofd heb gezien waarom de afbeelding door jouw bot niet opgepikt is? Hartelijke groet, DanielleJWiki (talk) 15:35, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@DanielleJWiki: ik heb hiervoor Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Automated image uploads gemaakt en tijdje terug de link naar je gestuurd per email. Ik had al gezien dat Vera m'n code gevonden heeft. Multichill (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct consultationEdit

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duplicates from Hungarian National Gallery (Q252071)Edit

Hi, I did merge several pretty obvious duplicates between your recent Hungarian National Gallery (Q252071) import and existing Museum of Fine Arts, Budapest (Q840886) entries. Seems like there is quite some overlap between them. You may want to check this list. Cheers! --Nono314 (talk) 17:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

@Nono314: I wonder if this has to do with en:Hungarian National Gallery#Controversy. Quite a few paintings seem to have migrated causing the duplicates. Multichill (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Both the English and Hungarian wikipedias seem not to have been updated for a while on that subject. But this page seems to agree with you. Most of the modern painting are apparently on (temporary?) display at MNG, until a new building scheduled to open in 2022. --Nono314 (talk) 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
@Nono314: used https://w.wiki/ym2 to create input for QuickStatements to merge it. Most of them are merged now, or at least the contents is in one item. The actual redirection didn't happen. I'm hoping for one of the bots to clean up after me. Multichill (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
See [1] and [2]. Multichill (talk) 18:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Great! Redirects now seem to have happened --Nono314 (talk) 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Note labels do not always exactly match (see Woman with a Fan (Q28777943)) that's why I used the combination (creator,inventory) for my query, but yours should have caught most of them. --Nono314 (talk) 19:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
@Nono314: just some leftovers remaining to completely finish the import so I did that tonight and merged some more of them. Multichill (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Art genreEdit

re https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2864737&oldid=prev&diff=1360457657

Can you consider looking at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#How_to_prevent_Maria_column_from_being_classified_as_a_process? that I was trying to resolve in edits that you reverted? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 17:11, 13 February 2021 (UTC)