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Mosaics report like Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Possible paintingsEdit

Hey! I would like to do some work to populate our coverage of Mosaics -- and have noticed that both on Commons and on other Wikis there are a number of mosaics described in categories, but we haven't added the correct class to them. Could you run a report similar to Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Possible paintings for Category:Mosaic (Q7468592)? Sadads (talk) 14:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the Category:Mosaic (Q7468592) edit -- must have accidently hit something to cause that. Sadads (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
You can fork if you like. Multichill (talk) 14:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I wouldn't know how to run that -- I have never operated a bot or python script, and wouldn't know where to start. I am happy to help write/populate a series of regex or petscan queries-- which this seems to be taking advantage of -- or I could try to learn the script bits, but would need some guidance on how to get started. Sadads (talk) 14:24, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Is there any chance you could run a copy of this for me? I am reading documentation about running Python bots, but it's a bit beyond my skill -- and it seems silly to request another bot operator to run it.Sadads (talk) 03:48, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
@Sadads: It should also be possible to replicate that functionality with a SPARQL query that could then be ingested by a {{Wikidata list}}. --Marsupium (talk) 07:51, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Maybe? I am betting it will time out. It's based on categories in each language. Asking WikidataFacts, since the documentation for categories in the query service is also not making a lot of sense for me, and there aren't any easy to find example -- pinging the petscan queries, seems to make more sense to me because you can introduce things like pages without Q#s (as this list bot does). I wonder if it would make sense for Template:Wikidata list + Listeria bot, or similar support producing Petscan lists as well? @Magnus Manske: might be of interest, Sadads (talk) 14:36, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
I also posted to the Query request page, Sadads (talk) 18:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject sum of all paintingsEdit

Guten Tag,

ich erstelle gerade Werkverzeichnisse für Wikipedia.

Wäre es möglich die bots mit mehr Informationen suchen zu lassen:

1) Name (artist) // Name Werk // Enstehungsjahr // Größe des Gemäldes (cm x cm) // Technik // usw... ?


Und könnten die bots auch Graphic, Zeichnungen, Sculpure suchen ?

auf Antwort würde ich mich freuen.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lulu 008 (talk • contribs) at 16:32, 11 May 2018 (UTC) (UTC).

Hallo Lulu 008,
zu 1) all diese Informationen werden normalerweise auch importiert, siehe zum Beispiel Haere Pape (Q28127478),
zu 2) das würde ich auch begrüßen, eine Möglichkeit wäre an dem Code mitzuarbeiten, dieser ist zu finden unter
Beste Grüße, --Marsupium (talk) 08:05, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding tags on WikidataEdit

You left a comment on my post regarding how to add a new tag.

Can the Tags be edited by anyone? I see no edit option on this page:

It would be great if you could provide some more details on how to add a tag.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maskaravivek (talk • contribs) at 08:47, 1 June 2018‎ (UTC).

Only admins can add the tag, but it's not very common so I put in the note.
Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. Multichill (talk) 09:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Re: National Museum of Visual Arts of UruguayEdit

Thank you!. There are 3 or 4 other institutions that can be added there. This query can give you an idea although it also includes photographs holded by a national archive of photos ( Ill be sure to keep that page up to date. Regards.--Zeroth (talk) 13:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Reply to User talk:Zeroth#National Museum of Visual Arts of Uruguay. Please keep conversation in one location. Multichill (talk) 13:52, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Question about itemsEdit

Hello Multichill, I created items that seemed to be logic for me, but when reading various discussions here on Wikidata I have some doubts about the relevance or the necessity of such items. And if so I would not want to still go on this wrong path. Just one example:

Pholiota nubigena (Q53857309)
Category:Pholiota nubigena (Q53857505)

My question is, did I do something wrong when I created Category:Pholiota nubigena (Q53857505)? should I have just put a link in Pholiota nubigena (Q53857309) "other sites" to the Commons category.

You are experienced and I thanks you in advance to light me. Regards, Christian Ferrer (talk) 09:09, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding missing labels requires internationalization sometimesEdit

Regarding this edit by BotMultichillT: Could you filter from "Added missing labels in … languages based on ULAN ………":

  1. items with a instance of (P31) statement whose value is not human (Q5), here notname (Q1747829) would have prevented the edit,
  2. labels that case-insensitive start with "master ", "monogrammist ", "painter " or end in " the elder" or " the younger".

An alternative would be to internationalize them. Translations are in c:Module:I18n/name. Thanks a lot in advance! --Marsupium (talk) 16:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Absurd aliasesEdit

Hi. Your bot insists in adding absurd aliases on Jean Petitot's page. "Emails par le célèbre Petitot" simply means "Enamels by the famous Petitot". It is a laudative description of works by Petitot and in no way an alias. Sapphorain (talk) 09:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

ULAN thinks it's a valid alias, you might want to check with them. Edit warring with a bot won't get you anywhere. Multichill (talk) 09:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
So what you are saying is: « well, my bot is programmed to reproduce in Wikidata any information contained in ULAN; that ULAN could be an unreliable source is none of my concern; ask them ». This appear to me to be a rather peculiar way of contributing to an encyclopedia. Thanks anyway. Sapphorain (talk) 20:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
No, I’m not saying that, I usually just don’t bother helping people that much who approach me in the way you do. Multichill (talk) 09:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Well, I "approached" you in a rather terse manner only after I had to revert 3 times your bot on Petitot's page (May 5, June 7, June 14), the first time explaining precisely why. Don’t tell me you weren’t noticed. Sapphorain (talk) 12:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Sapphorain, I am confused by your edits here. You were told (correctly in my opinion) that the bot copies the alias data from ULAN. There are multiple comments elsewhere about this bot doing that, usually because of similar objections like yours. You are not the first to notice this. The conclusion has historically been that any strange entries are also indeed welcome here. You can better contact the Getty if you feel so strongly about this specific one. The bot also copies aliases from the RKD. I for one am very happy the bot does this. Jane023 (talk) 13:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
While I don't have any strong opinion about this particular alias (though we shouldn't spam them, they are also displayed, e.g. in |Alternative names= of c:Template:Creator) I think it isn't good behavior of a bot not to respect human editors' edits. --Marsupium (talk) 14:56, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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