User talk:Multichill/Archives/2016/May

Wikidata:Europeana Art History Challenge/Polish

Why did you withdraw thoughtlessly my edits? --Adamt (talk) 11:10, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Adamt, welcome to Wikidata. Wikidata:Europeana Art History Challenge/Polish is a report page automatically updated by a bot. You are not supposed to edit it, the bot will just overwrite any edits made to it. What you should do is update and improve wikidata items. I noticed you worked on View and Plan of Toledo (Q6163991). I merged the two (duplicate) items into one so that should show up in the report. Maybe you can add the correct description in Polish to View and Plan of Toledo (Q6163991)? Multichill (talk) 16:28, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Proper names have been introduced but withdrawn. This page is sloppy. Selection (green) is not uniform. Many articles already exists in pl.wikipedia. If you do not see, then let others edit. In pl.wiki bot it is bad and makes mistakes that it turn off. Check in the page history and make corrections. If you can not amend let others did.--Adamt (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry Adamt, I don't understand what you're trying to say and I believe you didn't understand completely what I just said. Multichill (talk) 22:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for my English. Again Correct descriptions I introduced but has been withdrawn. Selections green color is uneven. Many articles already exists in pl.wikipedia and it is not marked. If you do not see, then let others edit. Check in the page history and make corrections. If you can not do it, let someone else do it.--Adamt (talk) 22:46, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

owl:differentFrom and owl:disjointWith

You reverted two edits of mine and claim to know what the purpose of the property "different from" is, so I explain my thinking process here. On further evaluation, I agree that "different from" should not have been used there. What is actually needed, and what I would like to assert is "disjoint with" (see owl:disjointWith). The purpose of my assertion was not for people, but for machine reasoning. So, when you said "no one would confuse them", you may be surprised at how many persistent items that are subclasses of time interval (Q186081) do not belong there. @TomT0m: @Markus_Krötzsch:

If you want to see the classes for yourself, paste this query at http://wdm-rdf.wmflabs.org/sparql

select distinct ?o ?label ?uri ?rlabel where {
{ select ?s where { VALUES(?s) {(wd:Q186081 )} } }
{ select ?s ?o ?rlabel ?label ?uri where { ?s ^wdt:P279 ?o .
?o rdfs:label ?label FILTER (lang(?label) = "en"). OPTIONAL {?o wdt:P105 ?rank . ?rank rdfs:label ?rlabel FILTER (lang(?rlabel) = "en") } . OPTIONAL {?o foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf ?uri FILTER regex (?uri, "^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/") }} } option
(TRANSITIVE, T_IN (?s), T_OUT (?o), T_DISTINCT) }

There are probably thousands of instances in some of those classes as well.

In ontological terms, a statement of an instance of time span resolves to a duration as a scalar value (also known as a time primitive). i.e. "a day (subject = time span) has time span of (property) "24 hours" (object). All class objects that may express duration that cannot be resolved to a time primitive are persistent (they have no beginning, duration or end) i.e. "holiday", "monday" and should be considered subclasses of a "spacetime volume". Any instance of "monday" absolutely has a place. It is the intersection of place and time that create an expressible reality.

I have created a property proposal here. This means that no member of this class can be a member of the other. owl:differentFrom is only to be used with individuals, not classes, but it serves a similar inference function.Chjohnson39 (talk) 11:39, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

		The Europeana Barnstar
		A small token of recognition for all your help with the Europeana Art History Challenge and, indeed with a lot of Europeana things throughout the years - not the least is the GWT! Wittylama (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Thanks for your understanding. I'm working on a project that uses data from Wikidata and I am improving items in English and Spanish. I'll check those references.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Corso (talk • contribs) at 16:31, 5 May 2016 (UTC).