User talk:Multichill/Archives/2020/December

RKD

Hi Multichill,

Vroeg me af of je toevallig plannen hebt om via de RKD-thesaurus de werklocaties in hje RKD-script toe te voegen voor personen als deze: Jacobus Anthonie Meessen (Q18060270) https://rkd.nl/nl/explore/artists/374950 Zou zeer waardewol zijn om werklocaties in Wikidata te krijgen. --Hannolans (talk) 13:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

herkomstgezocht, showing all historical collections

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q28062022&oldid=prev&diff=1320867032&diffmode=source

I know the object history and that Stichting Nederlands Kunstbezit only existed until 1951. IMHO as valid institutions, owners etc. should be treated only the actual ones, the object history can be given with deprecated ranks. Showing 5 institutions most of them no longer existing, is not useful at all. I would like to see opinions from other users--Oursana (talk) 03:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

@Oursana: that's not how ranks work. Setting it to deprecated you say that it never has been in that collection. That's an incorrect statement. I hope you didn't do this on a large scale. The right way to do this is to get the current valid value to preferred rank. See for example Federal Chancellor of Germany (Q4970706) where officeholder (P1308) Angela Merkel (Q567) is preferred and the rest normal. Multichill (talk) 10:56, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Deprecated collection without reason for deprecation. Multichill (talk) 12:01, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Check statements changed by IPs

Ik heb deze correctie gemaakt, maar kennelijk was de locatie toegevoegd door jouw bot nadat de item was gevandaliseerd door 82.159.2.121. Misschien een goed idee om te checken of zulke dingen door IP's zijn gedaan? Dit moet m.i. trouwens een insider test zijn geweest. Jane023 (talk) 11:47, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Tja, vandalisme is schering en inslag. Ik weet niet hoeveel er gevonden wordt en hoeveel er gewoon doorheen valt. Als je in dit overzicht kijkt dan kan je vrij gemakkelijk vandalisme eruit vissen. Multichill (talk) 12:07, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Unwarranted reversion

How about assuming a bit of good faith, eh? What you call "destroying data" is actually setting the correct value for the property. Why am I supposed to go via the talk page for what should be a pretty straightforward and obvious edit for anyone who's taken 2 minutes to read up on the topic? If you had, you'd know there's a very clear legal distinction between the position of "president ad interim" and "vice president fulfilling presidential duties". Mr Aragonès holds the latter position, not the former. The man himself has stated that the office of president is vacant. My edit of Q16933549 is simply and impeccably correct.

You're the one disputing this edit, so the onus is on you to start a discussion setting out your arguments. My edit history on here and several language versions of Wikipedia shows that I'm open to opinions that are different from mine, but not when people like you or Succu summarily revert other people's edits just because you think you have veto power over every single contribution to WikiData.

So this is the only warning you are getting on this matter: if you want to discuss those changes with me here or on the talk page of Q16933549, sure, go ahead, but revert my edit on that page again and I'm reporting you for vandalism and edit warring.--Leptictidium (talk) 10:20, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Leptictidium: President of the Generalitat of Catalonia (Q16933549) is one big edit war with all sorts of people doing "obvious" edits hence the request my request at the top of the talk page to please discus any significant changes. Often people who have the primary language of Catalan seem to have a different opinions on what is obvious on what Spanish speakers consider obvious. I have no horse in this race. I just want the data as correct as possible reflecting the multiple viewpoints. The English Wikipedia has at en:President of the Government of Catalonia Pere Aragonès as acting president and it has a source. So changing it to no value (without leaving the acting?) after user:MisterSynergy just restored it seems incorrect.

You seem to be very emotional about this. The fact that you needed 6 9 edits is a good indication that it might be a good time for you to have a break and a walk around the block. I'll just let your threats slide, but don't ever try to intimidate me again. Multichill (talk) 10:50, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

You assume bad faith from other users, you summarily revert their edits, you behave like every single contribution to WikiData needs your personal seal of approval, you pigeonhole people into "Catalan nationalists" and "Spanish nationalists" categories, and you still have the brass neck to say you'll let "my threats" slide? Admin or not, you have no right to give other people crap. For the sake of constructive editing, I'm willing to put this nasty episode behind us and restart our WikiData interactions on a friendlier basis, but I will not accept admins treating other users like second-class editors whose good-faith edits can be reverted on a whim. Have a nice day.--Leptictidium (talk) 11:16, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Leptictidium: don't forget to update es:Presidente de la Generalidad de Cataluña. Multichill (talk) 11:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)