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Cirt (talk) 15:37, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply



Are you still having an issue with this, or did you figure it out yet? — Cirt (talk) 16:15, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, but now Lisabeth H. Muhrer dont work. --Trade (talk) 16:27, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Different items


Hi, please see the difference between Department of Justice, Rating, Titles and Qualification (Q1750377), an organisation, and Brazilian Advisory Rating System (Q26323090) the rating system it maintains. As a general rule, we have different items for different entitites/things. – Máté (talk) 06:06, 4 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Songs and singles


See Q56085802, Q56085788 and Q1886329 for examples (see also the deletion discussion for P1432 (P1432), and Wikidata:WikiProject Music#Overview). There are about a few hundred more of these items, but currently there have been no semi-automatic imports to establish this sort of item structure, and this probably breaks some Wikidata infoboxes. Jc86035 (talk) 18:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

video game publishers


Hi, thanks for creating items about video game publishers. But it would be nice to add to these items some sources, identifiers and more corporate properties (at least some basic one like country (P17), headquarters location (P159), industry (P452) and official website (P856).--Jklamo (talk) 07:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Finding information and identifiers about small video game companies can be surprisingly hard. What do you use? Trade (talk) 22:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Creating properties


Hi! It seems that you have tried to create a property "content descriptor" at Q61519786, but you have created an item instead. Creating a property is slightly more complicated than creating an item: you must propose the property to the community first (see Wikidata:Property proposal). If you need help for that, let me know on my talk page. − Pintoch (talk) 10:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Your modification


Hello, You canceled me after my patrol. While:

  • Where does this information come from? This information should have a reference (2232 ?).
  • Depending on the site, the number is higher.
  • The 4 successive changes by the IP in less than 3 minutes looks like vandalism.
  • If the information goes back from this page, the date inserted by the IP is false (and the number too, QED). In addition, the information was valid 3 years ago.
  • The rb doesn't need an explanation, so when you Undo, write why.

In view of my explanation above, I am forced to reverter your modification as long as this information is hazardous. Cordially. --Eihel (talk) 00:30, 27 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Your edits on Robin Williams (Q83338)


Hi, could you please revert your recent string of edits to Robin Williams (Q83338)? You have added a suicide method to the cause of death property on that item. Suicide methods are neither a manner of death, nor a cause of death, but rather a suicide method. - 2600:1702:31B0:9CE0:B117:3B68:E7EB:EC39 00:31, 12 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

In your opinion, what's the correct way to use suicide methods items? --Trade (talk) 12:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Creating properties



It seems that you have tried to create a property "content descriptor" at Q63871158. In Wikidata we have a distinction between items and properties, and what you created is an item, so you will not be able to use it as a property as you probably expected. To get this created as a property, you need to propose it: see Wikidata:Property_proposal. If you need any help with that process, let me know on my talk page.

Keep up the good work! − Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 09:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hey ZI Jony, i just wanted to created something like Wikidata property related to sport (Q21818626) but with weightlifting instead of sport. As i remember, the only difference between Q63871158 and something like Wikidata property related to cycling (Q23660994) was the subject. Kind regards. Trade (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Id'er for filmdatabasen


Hej. Jeg har et værktøj til at fiske id til filmdatabasen på - det skal være et nummer på både DNF film ID (P1804) og Danish National Filmography person ID (P2626), da API kun bruger det og ikke kender hvad for en url, som brugergrænsefladen bruger. Søgedelen er ikke perfekt for navnet. Det skal jeg have kigget på. --Steenth (talk) 20:24, 28 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Metacritic vales order on Watch Dogs: Bad Blood (Q64577202)



I don’t fully get your latest changes on Watch Dogs: Bad Blood (Q64577202). Was that to get the IDs in a specific order?

Jean-Fred (talk) 15:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Jean-Fred: Pretty much, yes. Seeing Metacritic IDs with platforms in the 'wrong' order is somewhat a pet peeve of mine. I wish there was a way to standardize it, so to say. I really hope it doesn't bother you? --Trade (talk) 16:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
Not really because for me there’s no 'right' or 'wrong' order between platforms :) So I guess I find it kind of pointless, but hey, we all have our pet peeves of the sort so if that makes you happy, more power to you :)
(at some point in the not-so-far-future, I believe we will split VG items into one-per-platform anyways, so that won’t be an issue anymore ;-)
Jean-Fred (talk) 20:08, 13 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
Jean-Fred, unfortunately, it's also a very tedious process. First you have to remove the item, then you either have to place it at the bottom or replace another item. Then you need to find somewhere to the replaced item and etc. I've always wondered why we can't just click edit, move the order of the items around and then just save the whole thing?

Different items by casual confirming on Igromania ID


Please note that you do different items on Igromania ID, are you confirm all items by casual way? If yes, please stop and let me control all the items that are wrong. Kirilloparma (talk) 22:49, 3 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Damn, i could have sworn all the Rayman games had their correct names in Mix'n'Match. --Trade (talk) 22:51, 3 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
From tomorrow I will start checking the items on Igromania mix'n'match catalogue, please don't match anything for now, I need to determine where are the wrong items, thank you. Kirilloparma (talk) 23:01, 3 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
Kirilloparma, as said before all the Rayman items in mix'n'match had their proper name. --Trade (talk) 22:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Aliases with parenthetical disambiguators


Hi! In this diff, you added the alias "Joseph (The Simpsons)" for Joseph (Q65576697). Was it your intention to claim that English texts commonly use that string to refer to this entity? We don't normally include parenthetical disambiguators in our labels and aliases. Instead, disambiguation is done in the description and in the item properties. See Help:Aliases for more. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 21:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

So many items have the name 'Joseph', making the item quite cumbersome to find again hence why i used the the parenthetical disambiguators. I think it's okay to do when you have more than 20 items with the exact same name in the same language. --Trade (talk) 23:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)Reply
If I understand your response correctly, you are saying that the answer to my question is "no", and that you are adding this disambiguated alias in the hope that it will make one of your preferred entities easier for you to search for. As a comparison, here is a search for "nelson simpsons" which produces Nelson Muntz (Q1511163) as the first result despite the fact that it has no such disambiguated alias. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 03:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Regarding NASA biographies


Hi! I've seen your edits to the property. Could you have a look at Property talk:P2030 and comment my proposal about the new properties to be created? If you want, you can also proceed with some property proposals. Thank you in advance, --Epìdosis 22:40, 26 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Music websites


Hello. I think we have still lacks of some music sales websites (in fact they aren't all streaming services) for artists id and we are missing yet more ids for albums, singles and tracks even for those popular streaming services. It would be like 20 missing websites for albums, 20 missing websites for songs etc. I have it on eye but I have no idea when I will get motivation for it. Eurohunter (talk) 07:55, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

I noticed you just created Wikidata property related to music streaming services (Q66118123) so it's kinda hurried move due to they all aren't providing streaming services. Btw. would be good to have all related "categories" of music properties items at Wikidata property related to music (Q27525351) (related to song, record chart, streaming service etc.). Eurohunter (talk) 08:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
Eurohunter, 'it's kinda hurried move due to they all aren't providing streaming services.' which identifiers are you referring to?
'Btw. would be good to have all related "categories" of music properties items at Wikidata property related to music (Q27525351) (related to song, record chart, streaming service etc.).' Could you please eleborate? --Trade (talk) 13:15, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Community Insights Survey


RMaung (WMF) 17:37, 10 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reminder: Community Insights Survey


RMaung (WMF) 19:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

New page for catalogues


Hi, I created a new page for collecting sites that could be added to Mix'n'match and I plan to expand it with the ones that already have scrapers by category. Feel free to expand, use for property creation. Best, --Adam Harangozó (talk) 23:06, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Adam Harangozó:, have i added them correct? --Trade (talk) 23:58, 28 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, thanks! --Adam Harangozó (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Q133427 revert


Hi, on that revert, I don't get how Q133427 can be part of itself, shouldn't there be a dedicated series item? -- Maxlath (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Maxlath: There is --Trade (talk) 00:22, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

About this edit Special:diff/1075483189


You added a content: player character (Q1062345)opposite of (P461)non-player character (Q466466), it duplicate once.--林勇智 04:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)Reply



Hello. I have followed Rihanna Twitter account (Q65676172) or Beyoncé Instagram account (Q65676398) and others. Eurohunter (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Just noiced you have created topic ID. I think artist ID would be usefull. Eurohunter (talk) 23:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata:Property proposal/number of reviews or ratings


Hey, I just noticed Wikidata:Property proposal/number of reviews or ratings. I see you pinged me in Special:Diff/1089683879, but I never got it: per {{Ping}}, The comment must be signed and belong to a section in order for the notification to work.

Otherwise: the proposal makes sense to me, I think it’s a good addition :-)

Jean-Fred (talk) 19:49, 31 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Jean-Frédéric:Hey Jean-Fren, glad that you like it! I'm trying to make a list of video game websites that lists reviews and ratings. Can you tell me if i'm missing any? --Trade (talk) 00:11, 1 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Steam (user reviews)
  • GOG (user reviews)
  • (user ratings)
  • Google Play (user reviews)
  • App Store (user reviews)
  • Metacritic (user reviews and critics reviews)
  • GameFAQs (user ratings, user reviews and critics reviews)
  • IGDB (user ratings/reviews(?) and critics reviews)
  • VNDB (user rating)
  • GameSpot (user ratings)
  • IndieDB/ModDB (user ratings/reviews(?)

Thanks for info


If somebody vandalizes the Project chat undoing it is fine. But Special:Contributions/ was no vandalism, the OP presumably never saw the thanks for info. – 13:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Welp, looks like i was caught off-guard --Trade (talk) 15:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)Reply



I am requesting you not edit war with me if you disagree please take your concerns to the talk page. Datamaster1 (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Datamaster1: You were using the properties in ways they aren't supposed to be used. Using 'published in' on instances of human is one of them. --Trade (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
That is fine... my issue is with you removing sources and qualities that are accurate. Also, the Washington Examiner doe not have any description. Datamaster1 (talk) 17:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Datamaster1: May i ask why you removed my archived URL and changed the YouTube URL? --Trade (talk) 17:34, 9 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Well to start there is no need for keeping an old outdated url when there is a newly updated on cited it just creates confusion, as for the Youtube page there is no reference saying that is his Youtube but the one cited show him interviewing individuals and looks to be associated with his employer. Datamaster1 (talk) 17:36, 9 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
See en:WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Mmoates Billhpike (talk) 19:42, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

iHeartRadio artist ID


WHy do you keep changing iHeart artist ID (P7317) to link to the Internet Archive instead of Trivialist (talk) 00:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

The ID's for this property have become lost due to link rot. Without the Internet Archive link, the property is useless. --Trade (talk) 00:48, 11 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Again, that's not link rot. It's deliberate that the property only uses the ID number, because the text between /artist/ and the ID number is irrelevant:
I know it's deliberate because I wrote the original property proposal. Trivialist (talk) 00:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

P1343/P973 switches


Hi Trade,

Would you avoid doing that switch? It just complicates changing them to dedicated properties later. --- Jura 23:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Jura1:Okay, but if i'm adding a link to a item i plan on using described by source (P1343) instead of described at URL (P973). Would that be okay? --Trade (talk) 23:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
described by source (P1343) is generally not used for online resources .. why not use a property? --- Jura 00:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Jura1: Either one of two things. 1: Neither the property nor the website exists on Wikidata or 2: the formatter URL of said property does not allow me to use it. For example Kiva Andru (Q61890789) have a page on BTVA but due to the difference in formatter URL i cannot use the appropriate property (Behind The Voice Actors character ID (P5107), Kiva-Andru)
I have tried to use 'described at URL' in the past but once you reach more than three links the result tends to be ugly and cumbersome to navigate. --Trade (talk) 00:13, 12 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
The reason to use P973 is precisely that the property doesn't exist yet. --- Jura 00:16, 12 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

2020-02 Q85933163



Sorry for motiving you to create Does Unleashing a Neo-Nazi 'Troll Army' Count as Free Speech? (Q85933163). I made a mistake. The article has nothing to do with Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory (Q601271). I guess I confused with . Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Property talk:P953


Please respond at Property talk:P953 on why your changes are useful and what exactly is being asked for by the recommendation. It creates over 10,000 flags that are the same as error flags. Are you trying to tell us not to use a url, to use one from Wayback Machine? Isn't this better handled by a bot? --RAN (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

your reply is awaited, if it's reverted, revert back otherwise conversation will make no sense


howdy, this has to be archived, vandals deleted it even though many replies were given and that is clear violation of any wiki rule; i await your email!

US Bureau of Prisons Inmate Register Number


Good stuff!


  • It's not very practical but a dynamic search with no landing page is still better than having no link at all.
  • Allowing "end time" makes good sense.
Place of detention: None Has cause: Probation or Place of detention: XX Object has role: halfway house. --Trade (talk) 19:16, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Regarding birthdates


"It's safe to assume that F9digital are writing on behalf of the subject of the article. So why ban him from adding a birthdate? --Trade (talk) 10:57, 5 April 2020 (UTC)"

We'd love to be able to assume everyone in the world is honest, but On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog (Q1275790). Wikidata:Living people requires us to take the paranoid approach, unfortunately.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Riley Beek being intersex ?


Hi, I did see that you have changed sex or gender (P21) on Riley Beek (Q73715753), on . I almost reverted it since there is sometime vandals doing that (assuming because some people both confuse intersex and trans, and consider trans to be a insult), especially when the information is not sourced at all. But since I think you are not a vandal :p, I do wonder where the information comes from, as I wasn't able to find anything related on that after a quick search (but it could be a instagram comment, which I cannot read freelyit seems). Could you add a ref to the affirmation when you have time ? --Misc (talk) 09:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

It ws an accident i made while using Quick Presets on mobile. Apologies for that
@Misc: --Trade (talk) 11:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of my pages


Can you please tell me why you have requested the deletion of my pages



His, I just restored Shadow Council (Q17626094). Next time you contest a deletion, you should also, disable {{Delete}}, the bot haver tendency to archive really fast. --Fralambert (talk) 16:58, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Nothing against this, but what is the "structural need"? --Syrio posso aiutare? 22:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
The way i understand it: Any fictional identifiable entity that cam be seriously and reliable described by the notable work of fiction in question are considered notable. Otherwise, nobody would be able to create narrative items due to the constant threat of deletion --Trade (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
By my comprehension of Wikidata:Notability, "structural need" is more the fact that the item is usefull. Like MarieChantal (Q57480690) is not notable by itself, but we need it because it's used by MarieChantal Chassé (Q56877041). For a finctional State, faction, I imagine that it need to be used by a caracter, or a other faction. --Fralambert (talk) 01:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
I suppose it depends on how much you want to go in detail with the fictional universe: every character, faction, place and race has connection to several others, which have other connections, and so on. The Warcraft setting is *huge*, by a swift check here the factions alone are at least 190, probably more, and every one of them "can be can be described using serious and publicly available references" (as I understand this words). Where is the limit? --Syrio posso aiutare? 14:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply



Hello Trade. Would you like to be nominated for adminship? You seem to be the most frequent requestor of admin actions at AN and thus I think you would benefit from having it. I can make the nomination for you if you'd like. Just let me know.--Jasper Deng (talk) 03:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I aslo think that you made a fine admin. --Fralambert (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
  uh… same observation. I say the same as my colleagues above ! —Eihel (talk) 10:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
  Support ChristianKl09:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

YouTube channel ID (P2397)


Hello. Shouldn't it just use subject named as (P1810) instead of website username or ID (P554)? Otherwise "name in encyclopedia", "name in streaming service" etc. also would be needed. Eurohunter (talk) 13:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

'website username' was created for use with 'have website account on'. It's not a very good comparison
--Trade (talk) 13:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
"website username" says "only use as qualifier of P553". "P553" is "website account on" so there would be needed "username" for each type website. Is it expected? Eurohunter (talk) 22:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Looks like you were right. --Trade (talk) 22:27, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Re meta:SRG


Not answering there per en:WP:BEANS. But by "game[ing] auto/extendedconfirmed status" I meant making lots of trivial edits, usually to a sandbox or userpage, in order to boost one's edit count and gain autoconfirmed or extendedconfirmed status. Usually obvious after the fact, but sometimes not caught in time. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 02:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

WD:VANDALISM Wikidata:WikiProject Counter-Vandalism


Hello Trade,

Your recent intervention on my page makes me write to you today. If you participate in the fight against vandalism, you have the possibility to register on this page.

Regards.—Eihel (talk) 09:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I don't see anywherw to register?@Eihel:--Trade (talk) 21:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Oops, I made a mistake in the section title. Sorry. —Eihel (talk) 21:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes, because I was checking the addition of the best page to put a link in the community page for the fight against vandalism (like on other wikis). I think this is the best page because there are many links to start the fight against vandalism and get help with all the participants. What do you think about that? I often read that the newbies are a bit lost. —Eihel (talk) 21:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I dont think it matter where it is as much as it's linked in such a way that someone new to the site can easily find it. --Trade (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Also you are welcome to help me reporting suspected socks at Wikidata:Requests for checkuser. @Eithel:--Trade (talk) 22:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply



What is the point of it? Is it date of what? start time (P580) is also in use by other id's. Eurohunter (talk) 20:34, 2 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

The purpose of "point in time" is to show the date where the number of subscribers was valid. This is a perfectly normal qualifier to use with this propertt--Trade (talk) 20:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Still waiting for a response @Eurohunter:--Trade (talk) 13:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
I forgot, sorry. I understand the idea but "data" alone not explains meaning. It should be "date of" or something like that. Eurohunter (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Point in time are supposed to br placed right below number of subscribers. That shows that point in time represents the date where the number of subscribers were counted.--Trade (talk) 14:59, 7 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Didn't knew about answer. Okey. Eurohunter (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

help with vandalism issues


Hello, I am following the recommendations and leaving the user the corresponding notices, the user MarioMiller90, has made several edits, I have undone the edits in Q96156622, but some of your contributions are suspected of being false, please can you review the contributions? thank you, --Ytha67 (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

I suspect by the ways that the user may have related that I have reported other times, I can not prove it, I only see the pattern that follows, --Ytha67 (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
If you believe this user to have multiple accounts you should file a request at Wikidata:Requests for checkuser @Ytha67:--Trade (talk) 14:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply



First of all, it was my intuition at first. This user tends to edit some pages on eswiki. For example, something like this. You can find MuffySeville56, LaraLili2000, MarioMiller90. And there was a similarity between the account patterns he created. Since these two fit, I investigated this user and they were the same user. --Sotiale (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Might wanna change the block description so people know he's a sock of LaraLili2000. --Trade (talk) 15:24, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
How about attaching a template to their userpages like you did to Anan islam account group before? I think that will suffice. Since the account record appears in their CentralAuth, I don't think there will be any problem if you attach the template without block log :D --Sotiale (talk) 15:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

RE: A tip


Wow, thank you for that. I will definitely check that! Esteban16 (talk) 17:50, 13 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Q50125758, a spam?


Good afternoon,

To what extent is Q50125758 (a creation of mine) part of a "spam"?

Many thanks in advance, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 15:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC).Reply

I am truly sorry i got Q50125758 mixed up with all the other items. I'll nominate fewer items at a time so such mistakes doesn't happen again in the future. --Trade (talk) 15:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. For now, I suggest you to except this item from the bulk request... Best, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 11:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC).Reply

Script to change the order of statement


Hello Trade, do you need any help with the script? The instructions are very simple, you just have to put one line in your common.js. Joao4669 (talk) 19:26, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

You are welcome to make c hanges to the page if i did anything wrong. --Trade (talk) 23:57, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Joao4669:--Trade (talk) 23:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I'm not able to edit your page, but it seems ok now. Joao4669 (talk) 06:44, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

ạ== Property:P641 ==


I noticed you bot-added sport (P641) to games. I found it surprising because I have been sort-of removing them in favour of genre (P136) − especially since you created so many sub-genres (eg American football video game (Q63915391)). The information is a bit redundant isn’t it?

I could have seen a situation where we would have done

but it seemed to me that the point of having items like American football video game (Q63915391) was to not do that?

(I do see cases where there is little point in having sub-genres, such as every possible poker variation − keep at card video game (Q29471320) and using qualifier to say it’s Texas hold 'em (Q214536) or whatever).

Jean-Fred (talk) 12:38, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Last time i saw you mention the sports property as used on vidro games you seemed quite positive towards it. Didn't knew you had changed your mind

@Jean-Frédéric:--Trade (talk) 13:39, 29 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

No Value


Sorry to be asking such a basic question but I've been looking through documentation and can't find it. How are you able to set 'no value'? Thanks for fixing it on the statement that I couldn't figure it out on. --Jeanjung212 (talk) 21:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

see this picture @Jeanjung212:--Trade (talk) 21:40, 13 August 2020 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks! --Jeanjung212 (talk) 21:49, 13 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Grand Theft Auto V - deleted irrelevant image



The image shows bicycles. Do you know the game GTA 5? The bicycles are not related to the game. That is why I deleted the irrelevant image 2x. Please do not put it back.

Anyway where can I give "reason" to the deleting? I see no place for it. Misibacsi (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

AN Notification


There is currently a thread at WD:AN regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard#Report concerning User:Trade. Thank you. --Prahlad (tell me all about it / private venue) (Please {{ping}} me) 07:20, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sources for QuickStatements batches



I noticed some of your QS batches and your comment on the noticeboard regarding sources.

Took me a while to figure it out, but I noted down at User:Jean-Frédéric/QuickStatements notes how to add a comment and sources:

Q17146,Q30,based on [[Q6849913]] in [[Q328]],Q328,"""""
Q17150,Q30,based on [[Q6849913]] in [[Q328]],Q328,"""""

This would add to Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Q17146) with the comment “based on Category:Video games developed in the United States (Q6849913) in English Wikipedia (Q328)

country of origin (P495)
  United States of America (Q30)

add value

See eg Special:Diff/898733564/907967958.

Also, do make sure to give a name to the batch! “Import country of origin from English Wikipedia” would be plenty enough.

Hope that helps, Jean-Fred (talk) 11:19, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's not working @Jean-Frédéric:--Trade (talk) 11:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
What is not working? I’m not sure I understand your screenshot either.
(When I prepare QS batches I personally always text editor.)
I just tried pasting the above excerpt into QS with “Import CSV commands” and it works just fine.
Jean-Fred (talk) 11:24, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Maybe you could try and upload a text file with this QS batch? Then i could copy it and see if it works for me. --Trade (talk) 11:29, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following works for me: I just copy/pasted the following lines into QuickStatements, clicked “Import CSV commands” and it does prepare the batch correctly.
Q26963045,Q30,based on [[Q8897708]] in [[Q328]],Q328,"""""
Looking more closely at your screenshot − the header cell should be “qid” not the ID of an actual Q-item. Maybe that’s the reason?
Can you tell me what steps you are following, and at which point it is not working?
Jean-Fred (talk) 13:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
First i use this query to extract items from categories then i just add the relevant data the normal way (Q26963045,p495,Q414=. What i need would be a QS that can import the items from the category and add the country of origin with the before mentioned source. --Trade (talk) 12:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Jean-Frédéric:--Trade (talk) 12:21, 15 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

We sent you an e-mail


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Empty item



I see you created an empty item Q99770965, do you remember what it was for (and if so, could you fill it) or should we just delete it?

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

I had trouble getting QS to create items. Dont bother nominating it. The admins tends delete all empty items once in a while--Trade (talk) 14:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Ok, my goal was more to fix it and delete only if there is no choice ;) I see, this is a whole serie of items in fact: Q99771310, Q99771308, Q99771239, Q99771235, Q99771233, Q99771231, Q99771173, Q99771172, Q99771167, Q99771166, Q99771164, Q99771162, Q99771096, Q99771095, Q99771093, Q99771091, Q99771089, Q99771022, Q99771020, Q99771019, Q99771017, Q99771015, Q99770968, Q99770967, Q99770965, Q99770964, Q99770963, Q99770961, Q99770959, Q99770958. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

SCP: Secret Laboratory


Forgot to sign in, I am the IP user at SCP: Secret Laboratory. Why would the series be in SCP? It is a singular game with no predecessor, and SCP is a collaborative writing project. Rafplayz001 (talk) 13:08, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, i should have asked you before i reverted your edit. Do you wish for the SCP video game series (Q60182648) item to be deleted? @Rafplayz001:--Trade (talk) 13:12, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
No worries, I wasn't signed in. As the SCP series does not really "exist", I don't really think it should be it's own data item. Rafplayz001 (talk) 13:15, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
How about media franchise (P8345)?@Rafplayz001:--Trade (talk) 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Seems more fitting than the property about series, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Go ahead! --Rafplayz001 (talk) 14:20, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

2020-11 advice



Could you help me about Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard#Visite fortuitement prolongée POV-pushing? Should I reply quickly? Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 19:26, 6 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

You have been a bit careless when it comes to use the items far right and conspiracy theorist items on humans. You should take a look at the additions tyou made and revert those that are likely to be disputed. @Visite fortuitement prolongée:--Trade (talk) 20:12, 6 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 20:16, 6 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Mia Malkova


Hello, this because I find pointless a "no value". If you wish to keep it fine, I won't argue, but I frankly don't see the point in keeping it. -- Blackcat (talk) 15:22, 10 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

So? -- Blackcat (talk) 16:01, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
I think it makes good sense -- Trade (talk) 18:13, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes and if you explained me why I'd be happy. -- Blackcat (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Since the source states that she doesn't have a partner, using novalue can be used to convey that. --Trade (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Lol well but 'having no partner' is not a relevant thing to record. Anyway. I won't engage in a religion war on that topic. -- Blackcat (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of Q100735089


Hello, i'm Evaccari (talk) 15:23, 26 November 2020 (UTC) and i'm contacting you regarding your request for notability about Emanuele VaccariReply

One month ago it has been discussed between admin here in this page. The situation hasn't changed so i'm hoping the notability still stands. Thank you for your time.

Did you ever responded to him? @Evaccari:-Trade (talk) 15:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Trade:-EVaccari to be honest i just noticed the last message on that discussion and i will surely reply ASAP but even with that it seems to me that the notability policy adhesion isn't being doubter anymore in this case?

Deletion of Q102448135


Hi, I saw you proposed to delete StoriadeiCarabinieri (Q102448135), but I don't understand why. I followed the same path of another podcast as NPR podcast ID (P5840). Could you help to understand how to deal with this? Many thanks Flavio Carbone Carabinieri (talk) 20:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Properties at to be proposed st Wikidata:Property proposal--Trade (talk) 06:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of Q104203506


Hello, i'm --Soft Human (talk) 04:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC) and i'm contacting you regarding your request for notability or delete about Erick JinskingReply

Deletion of Q104203506 and Xhezair Elezi on


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Deletion of Q104203632 because no details add


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Deletion of Q104203647 because no details add


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Question about a editing


Thank you for editing the data object Q104458110. I have a question or a comment about one of your edits. You first added the designation “Fédération de Handball du Congo Démocratique” as the native label. Then you added the abbreviation “DRCHF” and “marked” it as French. But doesn't the abbreviation "DRCHF" actually refer to the English name and not to the French? --Gymnicus (talk) 19:56, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Reply



Isn't subject type constraint (Q21503250) to have relation (P2309)? It displays a warning icon. Esteban16 (talk) 18:30, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Constraints på danskfilmogtv title ID (P4209)


Jeg kan, at du satte krav til danskfilmogtv title ID (P4209), at country of origin (P495) skulle være Danmark og language of work or name (P407) og original language of film or TV show (P364) skulle være dansk. Men der er flere eksempler på udenlandske film med dansk produktion, som bliver registeret på sitet. Og det er både engelsk sproget film og stumfilm, hvor sprog skal være noget andet. Og derudover bør du være varesom med mandatory constraint (Q21502408). Jeg vil helst kun have den, når der problemet når et id ikke er unik eller der er en syntaksfejl, hvor det er vigtig at handle nu og her. Fx med country of origin (P495) - det er ikke kritisk at det bliver rettet med det samme. --Steenth (talk) 10:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Dövé Windsor


Rather than rollback going your edits, can you please create me a page? -- 13:02, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Can you also fix this? The search result that is linked with Wikidata on Google search still displays that I'm a video game programmer rather than an opera singer. Here's the link address:övé+Windsor+British+video+game+programmer&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecS4iJFb4OWPe8JSMxgnrTl5jXEiIxdXcEZ-uWteSWZJpZAeFxuUpcIlKMWrn65vaJiWW1GYW1BZpMEgxc-FKqQUbOS-69K0c2yOggxAsKAw0EFKU0uIi92z2Cc_OTFH0GTaU_0w30J7LWEujpDEivy8_NxKsFIGhg_2SpycQLqh7OlOey2Gpn0rDrGxcDAKMPAsYtVxObyt7PBKhfDMvJTi_CIFp6LMksziDIWyzJTUfIX0xNxUhYKi_PSixNzc1CIABEJWdNcAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjc_NGZiqPuAhVVtHEKHZ0OBGAQ6RMwC3oECA0QAg&biw=602&bih=964 -- 13:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Google AdSense (Q183480) imports data from Wikidata but that doesn't mean that we are the ones in control of it. You will have to follow the instructions here and request them to correct the error.--Trade (talk) 13:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)Reply



Hi, I can think of an AF for this subject, but the question does not belong to the CU (so I'll revert your edit there). I will look into it later. Lymantria (talk) 15:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

I made a AF checking for khojinindia. Let me know if it seems not to work. Lymantria (talk) 15:31, 18 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
You might wanna check out https://justpaste./it/5ndef. I use it to keep track of potential socks. Yeah, i know the irony of the copy paste website being globally blacklisted @Lymantria: --Trade (talk) 08:49, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
  --Lymantria (talk) 10:55, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

I need help


Dear Trade, If you dont mind can you help me and tell me how to use and activate Wikidata quickstatement tool?? Thanks BubblySnow  💬 06:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Was that helpful? @BubblySnow:--Trade (talk) 09:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Trade:, Ok Thanks I will try and let you know. Thanks BubblySnow  💬 11:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Template copied from your user page


Hey Buddy @Trade:, I like you user page Template which is showing online and offline status, So I have also copied your template so please don't mind buddy. Thanks BubblySnow  💬 12:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Regarding ESRB Ratings


I was curious if you had experienced running into games that listed an ESRB Rating on Steam, the Nintendo eShop, etc. but that had no entry in the ESRB database. Are these games using fake ESRB ratings (I assume not, but who knows), or is the ESRB database just kinda bad? Example:

I figure if anyone would know the answer, it'd be you :)

Thanks, Nicereddy (talk) 05:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Microsoft Store does not allow games without ESRB, PEGI, USK, ACB, OFLC, CERO or RARS to be sold in their respective regions so i I presume that the same applies to the Nintendo E-Shop and the PlayStation Store. Looking at this query you'l see quite a few games with no ID. @Nicereddy: --Trade (talk) 07:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
So it's the official ESRB database being bad, then? Nicereddy (talk) 05:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes. @Nicereddy:--Trade (talk) 07:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Breaking changes


You just managed to break all my queries last night. I am not very happy. Even after I fix them this new system you created will make them slower and more resource intensive. Máté (talk) 05:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

You didn't needed to make changes. I've already rev'd. --Trade (talk) 11:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

RfD for Subversive Sirens


As no one who has worked on this item has been notified of this RfD, I figured I'd let you know about it. Just one in a series too as I commented on in the RfD. -Yupik (talk) 01:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Local multiple languages


I made some edits here: The Local (Q3065033). I added many links to official website (P856), many language versions. Do you consider it proper that each language link needs its own Wikidata item or is it enough with one item like The Local (Q3065033) with all language links? I stopped editing now because I'm too unsure what's the proper way to do this. If you have time you can look into this or just tell me to do a Wikidata item for each language link and I'll do it. Thank you for your edits. LotsofTheories (talk) 04:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

The language versions should have their own items as they are different news sites, rather than just being translations of the same site. --Trade (talk) 08:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Google bilgi grafiği kimliği


Hello, can you add the Google Knowledge Graph ID of this person I don't know how (Q105952952) Fatih gh (talk) 18:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply



Regarding oldid 1379223657, jan (Q105816257) is always lowercased. See for example the titlecard for (Pepper (Q47012488) as 'jan Pepa'). Arlo Barnes (talk) 20:13, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

One more sock puppet found


Hello, this is to inform you that User:Etrfgbcvnm(35)manso is one more sock puppet of burman.k.ahmed.245CMR (talk)



I don't understand why you have split Das Coronavirus-Update into two items (Q88072607, Q106900865). As far as I know there is no radio program, only the podcast. -- Discostu (talk) 07:40, 20 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I am not the one who added radio program to Q88072607. @Discostu: --Trade (talk) 07:42, 20 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
But you are the one who created a second item. -- Discostu (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, because podcasts and radio programs should be different items.

Named as removed from qualifier for YouTube video ID


Tradeeeee... Why'd you remove "named as"? User:BorkedBot adds it to every statement that uses this property... Lectrician1 (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Title is the correct qualifier to use as YouTube videos are considered seperate works. The reason BorkedBot adds it to every statement is due to bot limitations @Lectrician1: --Trade (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
What limitations? I didn't know that. Lectrician1 (talk) 20:32, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
In order to use the title qualifier, you have to state the language of the title. @Lectrician1:--Trade (talk) 20:34, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ah, so named as should be converted to title? Lectrician1 (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Is there a way to convert them to title with labguage stated as "unknown"?

@Lectrician1:--Trade (talk) 21:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Well I'm stating that users should edit them to be the correct language, correct? Lectrician1 (talk) 21:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Trade, Lectrician1: oops, I accidentally reverted this change (missed this discussion). I described my point of view in the edit comment, but I'll repeat it here. YouTube exposes video titles both as a monolingual string and multilingual strings (in "localizations" object) - However only monolingual title is required there. Therefore Wikidata should not add more requirements. The only way to provide a consistent way to synchronize and validate titles is to allow both monolingual "named as" (snippet.title) and multilingual "title" (localizations.xx.title). --Lockal (talk) 11:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Removed distinct-values constraint from YouTube video ID (P1651)



Revision Lectrician1 (talk) 17:37, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

I want to be able to add the same YouTube video to multiple items. @Lectrician1:--Trade (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
What was your use-case? I bet you could add separator (P4155) = language of work or name (P407) + end time (P582) + object has role (P3831) instead. --Lockal (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Entity Q107231465 - Marked for Deletion, Why?


Hey! Wondering why this is marked for deletion, and why it was flagged as an advert? As neither is the case - it is simply a business entity that has been constructed to help establish a better knowledge graph; as well as a preferential relationship between a site, and the entity that it exists as. In any case, can you direct me as to how to remedy this issue.

If you look at Google Knowledge Graph ID (P2671) you can see that it says "Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability" meaning that not all entities (read: companies) with a Google Knowledge Graph are guaranteed an entry on Wikidata.
"In any case, can you direct me as to how to remedy this issue." Go to Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q107231465 and explain why the company complies with Wikidata:Notability. The deletion proposal will be decided by an administrator (which i'm not). @Ronin.abv: --Trade (talk) 19:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the update, Trade! It got deleted, so I'll be looking into it a bit more.

Your item was deleted by Hasley. It's best to take it up with him. @Ronin.abv: --Trade (talk) 22:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Trade: @GerardM: You both created what seem to be similar items. I'm placing this discussion here, since Trade generated retracted scholarly article (Q77253277) after GerardM generated retracted paper (Q45182324). What is the intended difference Trade? You described your item as "scholarly article published but subsequently withdrawn" but what suggests that GerardM's item wouldn't include those specific articles? Trilotat (talk) 17:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Pro Cycling Manager games might be duplicates


Is there a reason to believe Pro Cycling Manager 2008 (Q107301141) is different from Pro Cycling Manager 2008 (Q650062)? I think the Pro Cycling Manager games you created a few hours ago are duplicates, although I'm not 100% sure since the naming of the series is a bit weird. I already merged the record for the 2012 game, but I figured I'd ask about the others in case you had a specific reason for creating a separate item here. Nicereddy (talk) 04:29, 21 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

AnimeClick anime ID


AnimeClick anime ID (P5845): it's not necessary to add item-requires-statement constraint of original language of film or TV show or country of origin because AnimeClick database includes titles, not only from Japan, but from other different countries too (examples: [1], [2], [3]).--Dany3535 (msg!) 10:55, 3 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

I am aware but these only make up a small minority. The vast majority of entries are anime television shows — from you guess Japan, made in Japanese @Dany3535:--Trade (talk) 11:57, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
It's not only a minority. AnimeClick site is mainly focused on Japanese animation, but its database contains many animated films or series from all the world.--Dany3535 (msg!) 10:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fictional time period


Hello. Wouldn't the item fictional historical period (Q106921244) you created be the same as fictional historical period (Q18230293)? I say this because the analog is the same. I also wonder if a time period that is fictional makes sense by itself. I mean, two fictitious time units, six fictitious time units, twenty, one hundred... Thanks. --Fantastoria (talk) 17:44, 11 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to merge if you want @Fantastoria:--Trade (talk) 18:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi, at this moment you added a number of checks in Genius ID (P6218)/Musixmatch track ID (P6742)/LyricsTranslate ID (P7212) to enforce moving such statements to vocal-tracks items (as far as I understand). But it contradicts with usicBrainz model, which looks more correct from my standpoint:

  1. musical work:
    1. may have lyrics (from whitelist), license, composer, lyricist, librettist, translator, dedicated to, etc. - , language
    2. should not have: performer, links to actual music tracks, length, bpm, etc.
  1. recording:
    1. may have license, length, bpm, arranger, vocals, producer, engineer, links to youtube/spotify/etc. -
    2. should not have: composer, lyricist, lyrics, language (because all of these properties can be set in related musical work).

So I don't see the reason why we allow lyrics in recordings and disallow lyrics in songs. Constraint check should be set in an opposite way. As usual, talking about an idealized world of opinionated constraints, which reduce diverge from the "golden" path. --Lockal (talk) 11:16, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Upd: is also "kind of" contradicts with MusicComposition and MusicRecording schema (derived from MusicBrainz and, making impossible to link traditional songs (without recordings) to lyrics. --Lockal (talk) 12:50, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Moebeus:--Trade (talk) 17:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I would venture a guess that 95% percent of lyrics IDs currently used are tied to recordings, evidenced by the same song having many IDs based on who sings (covers) it. But I agree that lyrics for traditional songs, not tied to a performing artist, belongs on the composition. Do we have many of those? Moebeus (talk) 17:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Moebeus:, I understand that we have a simplified data-model for recordings, combining both recording-related and work-related properties. My complaint is that we also have a full model and constraints added by Trade prevents from filling a full model (like if there is some hidden idea/vision behind these constraints, but I guess there is not).
If you are interested about percentage estimation:
--Lockal (talk) 10:09, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I hope we're not talking past each other here, but I think a distinction should be made between lyrics sites that are autogenerated based on tracks/recordings (like Musixmatch track ID) and sites like LiederNet that are about the actual works (not a separate ID for each recording). Why MusicBrainz allow Musixmatch links on works you'd have to ask them about, but it's clearly not ideal, you'd end up with tons of them for works that are covered a lot.
Whether we should actually enforce constraints at this point, with thousands of songs/singles/tracks still conflated and not conforming to the music model - Personally I think it's a little premature, using P1963 / P8952 to guide rather than enforce seems like a better option to me. Moebeus (talk) 10:53, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks, now I see what I missed. For example, Lyricstranslate has 1 page with Silent Night without specific artist and 18 copies of Silent Night for different artist, with slightly different formatting and each copy has its own set of translations. That's not how I imagined it ( has much better solution, i. e. if artist performs slightly different lyrics, then it is possible to identify author and say that song is new one). Both Musixmatch and Lyricstranslate are mostly performer-centric, even though there are few exceptions like [5]. --Lockal (talk) 18:54, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Streamers on fictional planets?


I saw you added that Lirik (Q55616366) (a human livestreamer) is set in the environment fictional planet (Q2775969), so I undid it as I suspected error. But now I see at least two others, are these intended and I'm just not getting something? Sodapoppin (Q50279901) Disguised Toast (Q59240315) Thanks AntisocialRyan (Talk) 00:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm importing from English Wiki so some mistakes are bound to happen. I will try and remove the false positives when i get home from work tomortow. @AntisocialRyan:--Trade (talk) 00:43, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Oh alright, no problem really, I was just super confused haha AntisocialRyan (Talk) 00:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
+1 I see many characters with P8411 which is wrong. --Infovarius (talk) 13:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Batch #63845 "Adding media franchise to Star Wars items"


Hi, your resent group of edits Batch #63845 "Adding media franchise to Star Wars items" has the wrong franchise value (Futurama (Q60321246) instead of Star Wars (Q462)). It looks like you attempted to undo it but that undo only reverted 41 changes of the 93 that were made. I'm not sure why it didn't undo everything, but I figured you should know. An example is this edit to Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Q55214) - perhaps it didn't get undone because the franchise was already specified as Star Wars (Q462)? --Pokechu22 (talk) 18:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for bringing up the issue. I think the issue is solved now @Pokechu22:--Trade (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Looks solved to me, thanks. --Pokechu22 (talk) 20:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)Reply



You seem to have added direct-to-video (Q844580) to thousands of items that are not direct-to-video, or aren't even films at all. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Did it help? @Xezbeth:? --Trade (talk) 05:58, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
It's still present on films that had theatrical releases, therefore are not direct-to-video. Tales of Vesperia: The First Strike (Q3514488) for example. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:53, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
I will look at it when i get home from work. @Xezbeth:--Trade (talk) 09:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Xezbeth: Betternow?--Trade (talk) 01:25, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sorry about the accidental revert


Sorry about the accidental revert, I was trying to remove this which is causing reference errors. --Lam-ang (talk) 22:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Podcast format


Regarding this, episodes on Spotify can be also video podcasts. Example Germartin1 (talk) 07:33, 29 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast episodes


Fyi, most of Jordan's episodes were recorded in Canada, some also while on his tour in the US or Europe. Btw did you get my reply, let's connect...Germartin1 (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

If you want me to add properties such as country of origin, let me know, I can easily add it in Openrefine next time. Germartin1 (talk) 20:23, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Country of Origin sounds good. That and also podcast genre. --Trade (talk) 21:04, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Critical Role podcast


Hi! Why did you spilt off the podcast info from Critical Role (Q22079668) to Critical Role (Q109341430)? Critical Role is web series with a podcast adaptation so it makes sense to keep all of its distribution formats in one place. By removing the Spotify & Apple Podcast links, you broke the "External podcast links" template over on Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:57, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Podcasts#Radio_show_vs_podcast. We usually keep podcasts seperate from the entities they are based on. I'm sorry that it caused you issues but Wikidata and Wikipedia are two completely seperate projects. @Sariel Xilo: --Trade (talk) 22:01, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Proposal change notice


You supported my Wikidata:Property proposal/Apple Music track ID proposal. This is just a notice that I changed the proposal to the opposer's suggestion. Please indicate whether you still support it or not. Lectrician1 (talk) 21:40, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Renaming of P5346


Hi Trade! I was wondering if it would be better to rename the P5346, from Playmates Playmate ID to Playboy Profile ID, since the original domain used by the property is gone and the current URL format for playmates, cyber girls and celebrities is the same. What is your opinion about it?--Crazy hat royal (talk) 09:32, 6 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sounds reasonable @Crazy hat royal:--Trade (talk) 10:31, 6 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
I started a discussion topic at the property's talk page. Letting you know, also in the case that you would like to give some insight.--Crazy hat royal (talk) 05:02, 11 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Property creator


I have assigned property creator to your account. Please carefully follow Wikidata:Property creation when creating new properties. Best wishes and have fun! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Trade, have you had a chance to look at any of these yet? There is quite a backlog at Category:Properties ready for creation if you have any opportunity. Thanks! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
USgamer ID (P10348) How did i do? @MSGJ: --Trade (talk) 02:22, 10 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Good evening! Could you rewrite the Wikidata property talk page data like this with Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 19:07, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

SCP list / Crom API


Since you have some interest in SCP articles given your subpage User:Trade/SCPs, I thought I may as well tell you that the Crom GraphQL API is a nice resource to be able to pull data about published pages, including for non-English translation branches. You can filter by SCPs specifically by looking at the scp tag, and can get the object class by looking for an object class tag (e.g. euclid, keter). It's a lot more convenient than any automated operations directly interfacing with Wikidot, which lacks a proper API.

Not sure how much of this is useful to your work here on Wikidata, but I thought it was worth mentioning at least.

aismallard (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Site 19 (Q110935240)


Apparently SCP: Containment Breach doesn't take place in Site-19. Reddit post explaining why. Link to in-game message from Security Chief Franklin talking about Site-19 as if it was another site. Update: I created Site or Area that SCP - Containment Breach takes place in (Q111144582) to separate it from Site-19 (Q110935240) OrnateAccount (talk) 17:03, 7 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Strange merge



I see that you merged Wikidata property related to music (Q107113755) in Wikidata property for items about musical works (Q22965078) last June. This seems strange and the result is a bit wrong as the first one was for identifiers and the second is not for identifiers, for instance composer (P86) is now a subclass of identifier (same for all other properties related to musical works). Either we should undo the merge or remove the wrong subclass, I'll let you have a look and tell me what you think.

Cheers, VIGNERON en résidence (talk) 14:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

We should probably merge Q28146956 and Q107113755 @VIGNERON en résidence:--Trade (talk) 21:22, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Maybe... It sounds better than the previous merge (thanks for undoing it by the way) but I'm not 100% sure. Cdlt, VIGNERON en résidence (talk) 08:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Erroneous use of property


I think you added applicant (P10602) erroneously in this edit, it is not supposed to be used for video games like that. --Hannes Röst (talk) 18:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

mind continuing this discussion on Wikidata talk:WikiProject_Wikidata for research#New properties applicant (P10602) and co-applicant (P10601)? @Hannes Röst:--Trade (talk) 19:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

User:Trade/Recent created music videos


Did you indeed want to ask the deletion of the page? Your edit was a bit confusing, I do not know what to act. Thanks for clarifying! Bencemac (talk) 16:52, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes@Bencemac:--Trade (talk) 19:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply



Oops, didn't realize it was a DID thing, just typed in "alternate personality" and chose it. I think I meant alter ego (Q201662)? AntisocialRyan (Talk) 19:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply



Hey do you have a Discord? I have questions about quickstatements AntisocialRyan (Talk) 22:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

I use Telegram for WD. What's your user name? @AntisocialRya: --Trade (talk) 22:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
@AntisocialRyan:--Trade (talk) 22:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ah I don't use Telegram, do you mind if I ask here? Just need some pointers.
If I wanted to replace all has characteristic (P1552) verified badge (Q48799541) qualifiers with has characteristic (P1552) verified account or profile (Q28378282), what would be the easiest/fastest way to do this? There are a lot of things I want to fix like this. AntisocialRyan (Talk) 22:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
I just remove the statement and re-insert it afterwards with the new qualifier value @AntisocialRyan:--Trade (talk) 22:21, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply



Hey, as I've made related changes, I've noticed that Wikidot (Q7999846) has some ambiguity issues, and I wanted to know your opinion. Essentially, an interesting thing about Wikidata is it distinguishes between similar but distinct concepts with the same name, such as SCP Foundation (Q17439649) (the website) and SCP Foundation (Q59475479) (the in-universe organization). I'm wondering if Wikidot is having a similar issue, looking at the current mess of instance of (P31) statements. Personally, I can see three concepts combined within Q7999846:

  • Wikidot, Inc. (the corporation)
  • Wikidot (the wiki software)
  • (the website run by the above corporation running the above software)

How are situations similar to this handled? I would imagine that the "corporation" and "website" concepts would be in the same Q item, similar to YouTube (Q866), but I couldn't find a good reference for "software" vs "website running that software".

Thanks. aismallard (talk) 07:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Splitting the software would be ideal. @Aismallard:--Trade (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good, created Wikidot (Q111796886). aismallard (talk) 20:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

"copyrighted" or "copylefted"?


When giving free works of fiction the copyright status (P6216) property, should we give it copyrighted (Q50423863), or the more specific copylefted (Q109332052)? I've noticed SCP (Q81113235) items don't have a consistent value for these, and I thought it would make sense for them to be all the same either way. aismallard (talk) 23:22, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

copyleft (Q133475)'the practice of using copyright law to offer the right to distribute copies and modified versions of a work and requiring that the same rights be preserved in modified versions of the work'. Well, do you think this is an accurate description of the license used by the SCP Foundation site? @Aismallard:--Trade (talk) 23:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
The site uses the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (Q14946043) license, which is a share-alike/copyleft license, so I think it is, yes. aismallard (talk) 23:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Then we go with copyleft @Aismallard:--Trade (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Looks like copylefted (Q109332052) is not supposed to be used in copyright status (P6216), see Property talk:P6216#Don't use copylefted. I've changed several of the properties to use copyrighted (Q50423863). aismallard (talk) 00:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Separate Wikidata items but singular Wikipedia article


Hello again. I recently did some work expanding Sacaba massacre (Q109701707) and Senkata massacre (Q109941596). Right now they're only linked to English Wikipedia, but there's also an article for them on Spanish Wikipedia: Masacres de Sacaba y Senkata. However you can only attach one Wikimedia project page to an item at a time. How should I designate the connections in this case? Thanks. aismallard (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Have you tried to use 'part of' > 2019 Senkata and Sacaba massacres (Q84359336)? @Aismallard:--Trade (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oh I thought that item was deleted. Okay I'll try that. aismallard (talk) 22:12, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply



Bonjour, Je n'ai fait que séparer l'entreprise (Q56739450) de son produit (Q112289275). Cordialement, Arpyia (talk) 20:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

And i'm grateful for that. Afterwards, i splitted the product and the mobile app @Arpyia:--Trade (talk) 20:56, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Uvalde Police Department


Hello! You added the Robb Elementary School shooting to Uvalde Police Department (Q112630983). This was, however, the wrong police department; the school district has its own police department, Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District Police Department (Q112631110), which was the one involved in the response to the shooting. The Anome (talk) 11:41, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Personality Database Project


I was travelling and did not have edit access to wikidata in the past few weeks. Are you still interested in collaborating on this project? If so, how do you think we should proceed? Sparkleeldar (talk) 01:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I was thinking we could agree on matching specific PD categories to Wikidata and create new items if necessary. That way, it would be more efficient @Sparkleeldar: --Trade (talk) 14:23, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I'd like to join in on this potentially so I'll subscribe to the topic. AntisocialRyan (Talk) 14:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you :) Sparkleeldar (talk) 11:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
That would be great! What information should I provide for this matching? Sparkleeldar (talk) 11:25, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Let us start with Government (USA) @Sparkleeldar: --Trade (talk) 22:36, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Do we manually edit the wikidata pages of US presidents, or is there an easier way to do so? I can provide a spreadsheet with president name and their PD id, will it make the job easier? Sparkleeldar (talk) 03:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I recommend the Wikidata for Web extension. It is a bit clunky and malfunctions sometimes but it is so much faster. Been adding a lot with it. Trade uses as well. AntisocialRyan (Talk) 03:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I will give it a try :] Sparkleeldar (talk) 05:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
This is an amazing tool! Sparkleeldar (talk) 06:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
🥲 – Shisma (talk) 17:55, 25 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
:) -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 17:59, 25 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding [6]


What difference between Arrowverse (Q20775209) and Arrowverse (Q113094863)? Рассилон (talk) 09:06, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

One if the in-narrative fictionl universe, the other one is the real-life media franchise @Рассилон:--Trade (talk) 16:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I.e. the same difference that is between Stargate (Q11927) and Stargate universe (Q17486229)? Рассилон (talk) 22:22, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Exactly @Рассилон:--Trade (talk) 23:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks   Рассилон (talk) 08:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Items with both voice actor + character role and characters + voice actor


Hi Trade, I noticed that there are several items having both voice actor (P725) x / character role (P453) y and characters (P674) y / voice actor (P725) x (e.g. Animal Crockers/One Flu Over the Crocker's Nest (Q111698373). This seems a bit redundant to me as both statements express the same. According to WikiProject Movies we should use cast member (P161) x / character role (P453) y in the case of actors and I thought that this should be the same for voice actors. Is there a reason to have the additional characters (P674) y / voice actor (P725) x? (I already started deleting voice actor (P725) x as a qualifier to characters (P674) y if voice actor (P725) x with qualifier character role (P453) y is present at the item, but I could undo my edits if these qualifiers are not redundant). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 20:49, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's a bit bizarre that characters (P674) x / performer (P175) / voice actor (P725) y is listed as an allowed qualifier if we are not supposed to use it. Pinging our cartoon expert @TnT20052013, Valentina.Anitnelav: --Trade (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Valentina.Anitnelav, TnT20052013: Sure, go ahead --Trade (talk) 23:07, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
You can do that. It will remove redundancy since the voice actor property is already present on the items. TnT20052013 (talk) 02:32, 25 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Have you had a chance to check out User:Bovlb/wd-deleted? I just opened it to rollbackers. Bovlb (talk) 15:42, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

When i click on a QID, the page redirects me to the undeletion page which is something rollbackers cannot do. Would it be possible to make so the page redirect rollbackers to the deletion log instead? @Bovlb:--Trade (talk) 21:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Good point. Try now. Bovlb (talk) 21:40, 26 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Works as expected. Thanks @Bovlb:--Trade (talk) 00:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Question about references


Hello, I noticed here that you added a lot of reference information very quickly:

Is there a tool that you're using to do this? Or are you just fast AntisocialRyan (Talk) 19:11, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

No, just manually. But maybe we do need a tool to make it easier? @AntisocialRyan: --Trade (talk) 19:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Alright I was just impressed and wanted it if you were using something. It would be really helpful AntisocialRyan (Talk) 19:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
I can recommend User:Samwilson/CiteTool.js. Really helps with entering refs. Jean-Fred (talk) 21:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Jean-Fred Thanks for showing us this! This is a super helpful tool AntisocialRyan (Talk) 21:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Wanna tell me how it works? @AntisocialRyan:--Trade (talk) 22:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Add the line that I added to your common.js like me:
When editing a reference with a "reference URL" property, a button will appear to fill it in. AntisocialRyan (Talk) 22:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
importScript( 'User:Samwilson/CiteTool.js' ); AntisocialRyan (Talk) 23:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
I updated the docs at Wikidata:Tools/Enhance_user_interface#CiteTool and added a screenshot − hopefully it will help :) Jean-Fred (talk) 12:13, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply



When you do something like add a claim for someone's last words, please use a better source than TV Tropes.

That sounds plausible, and it's all over the place, but I have no idea how long it'll take to find a legit source. Apparently TV Tropes edit histories only show the most recent 15 versions unless you create an account, which I decline to do; it's probably in the media somewhere from between 1994 (when he was killed) and 2004 (when TV Tropes was created). DS (talk) 18:24, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Fandom Mix'n'match Catalogs


I figured out a way to import Fandom wikis on a mass scale to Mix'n'match. Are there any wikis you'd like to see? -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 20:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Have you considered making a guide to other editors at some point if you have time? @Wd-Ryan:--Trade (talk) 01:32, 12 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Miraheze articles


Hello! I just proposed a new property for Miraheze articles, which is a lot like Fandom. Thought you'd be interested. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 16:33, 13 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Indie DB vs Mod DB


Greetings. Can you enlighten me regarding the relationship between these two databases? As I understood from your edit, if the game is available in the IndieDB database, then it's also available in ModDB under the same slug. Is it correct? Basically everytime I set Indie DB game ID (P6717), I should also set Mod DB game ID (P6774) with the same value? Facenapalm (talk) 01:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Correct. All Indie DB game ID (P6717) are available on Mod DB game ID (P6774) using the exact same slug but not vice versa. You should consider requesting a bot to add Mod DB game ID (P6774) automatically. It would likely be easier @Facenapalm:--Trade (talk) 20:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Significant event property constraint change


You made a change to the "significant event" statement concerning the "item of property constraint". Now the entity "Texas Book Festival" shows it should be not used with that statement, which was not the case before you made the change. I don't understand this well enough. Can this be fixed? Nv8200pa (talk) 11:15, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

human clitoris (Q117460175)


Hi. I am not understanding why this is separate from clitoris (Q873072). Both pages seem to display the same article level material. If they need to be separate then it would be worthwhile putting something explanatory for eyes to understand the difference that you are attributing. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

And it would be worthwhile IMO in showing that with different from (P1889), which would also stop it showing in the merge pages.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:01, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
The commons category is for humans specifically. Since the second one are for the sex organ i found it necessary to split. Trade (talk) 22:47, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Q119084667 Deletion question


Hello, I would like to know how or why this entity was deleted. What makes it spam or advertising? Knowledgepioneer10 (talk) 02:05, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

The description. You need to ask Esteban16 to undelete the item if you believe i was wrong. Nothing personal. Trade (talk) 13:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
The description was merely describing who the entity is. I appreciate your time and don't worry about it. Thank you. Knowledgepioneer10 (talk) 02:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Deleted Two Of the page i created Q121084775 & Q120555721


I would like to know how or why you Deleted Two Of the page i created Despite backing up these pages Q121084775 & Q120555721 with reliable source from reliable blogs @Trade Beckyrose233 (talk) 08:45, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Recreating already deleted items is against the rules Trade (talk) 20:37, 4 August 2023 (UTC)