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Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )

Joined 14 December 2012




Can a bot add in siblings?Edit

If someone has 11 children with entries in Wikidata someone has to add in the 10 siblings to each record of each child for 100 entries. This could better be handled by a bot that will give fewer errors. Does one exist already?  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk • contribs).

I'm not sure what the point would be. Queries would be better off just checking the parent-child data directly. --Yair rand (talk) 02:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I think most people would be coming to Wikidata through Google or Siri or Alexa, and not running a query using SPARQL. Especially for entries not in English Wikipedia. --RAN (talk) 13:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Poulpy (talkcontribslogs) used to run such a bot, I believe. Thierry Caro (talk) 04:16, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
A bot would be best, but in the short term you can use User:Matěj Suchánek/moveClaim.js to copy claims from one item to another. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:17, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
If no one has the script available, I would be willing to create and run it, if a request is made via WD:RBOT. I believe there will be more family relations that can be handled the same way (sibblings, parents/children, grand-parents, uncles, etc). I am working out something similar with ranges (follows (P155) and followed by (P156)) in a serie/chain. Edoderoo (talk) 12:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)


  • See John Wayne Gacy for how to document events with images.
  • Like Google we should display a fair use image for each entry of a person.


  • There is a patent number, should we list it only for the entry for the invention of should we list it under the patent holder?

Research IDsEdit

  • Scopus
  • ResearcherID
  • LinkedIn


related image (P6802)


How do I edit them, where are they stored? Is their a guide online with FAQs? --RAN (talk) 22:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

See video. Wikicommon is an en:Wikibase installation that can access all wikidata objects. Next step I guess will be
  • use depict on part of a picture
  • get a en:SPARQL query interface -> you can ask for all paintings with a person that is als mentioned by a source xxxx see tests we have done on Wikidata tweet
-Salgo60 (talk) 07:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Human dopplegangersEdit

Interesting editorsEdit

  • Auntof6 deletes Simple English entries
  • Nikkimaria deletes information from Wikidata when deleted from English Wikipedia

Progenitor of a familyEdit

Do we have a field that holds the progenitor of a family? This would be the earliest person we have in Wikidata from that family. We list over >1,000 noble families and other political and Hollywood and business families. When I see the entry for the family, I would like to zip right to the first person.

Disambiguate familiesEdit

  • Smith family
  • Smith banking family
  • John Smith (1800-1900) family
  • Smith family of New Jersey

Add photo from FlickrEdit

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?url
  ?item wdt:P973 ?url.
  optional {?item wdt:P18 ?image .}
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
Try it!

Familytree templatesEdit

{{Wikidata/FamilyTree|entityId=Q20656299|title={{Q|Q20656299}} |ancestors=5|descendants=5 |years=1 |compact=0 |invert= |decorate=by-generation |mode= }}







Thomas Patrick NortonEdit



Anna August KershawEdit





Farsund, Norway familyEdit




Nakhon Pa Mak, Phitsanulok, ThailandEdit

Candidate for elected officeEdit

Is there a standard way we show someone was a candidate for an elected office without creating, say, 50 "candidate for Governor of state X" entries? If we created the categories would it also list the winner of the election or just the losers? --RAN (talk) 20:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

The usual way seems to be to create one item per election (often created anyway for Wikipedia), then each person can be listed with #ifeq: 7. E.g., Template:Q Ghouston ([[User talk:Ghouston|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 04:15, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
There's also the inverse approach, using Template:P on the person, pointing at the election item. --Oravrattas ([[User talk:Oravrattas|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 08:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Swedish noble familiesEdit


  • professional or sports partner (P1327).

Death at seaEdit

Did we ever finalize a way to mark a death-at-sea? We were looking for a way to harmonize all the deaths at sea and which ones had the bodies recovered and which ones did not. We created Template:Q but did not agree on how best to utilize it, so it was never populated beyond a few demo records ... did it progress any since I left the conversation? We have a category for deaths at sea in English Wikipedia ... but how best to mark them here so we can get a comprehensive count and a comprehensive list. --RAN ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 23:58, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

The problem with Template:Q is that it's an event, not a location, so it's inconsistent to use it as a value of Template:P. However, Template:Q can be used instead, so it seems to me that Template:Q can be deleted. It won't be possible to make a comprehensive count without also considering more specific values like Template:Q which are used as a death locations, e.g., for Template:Q. Ghouston ([[User talk:Ghouston|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 03:27, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
As a way to harmonize, what about populating "manner of death" with Template:Q or Template:Q in addition to accident?
I don't think that would be the way "manner of death" is supposed to be used. It would be like having "death on a train" or "death in Germany" as values. Ghouston ([[User talk:Ghouston|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 23:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
If the desire is just to make it easy to find all the deaths at sea, it's really no different to wanting to find all deaths in any other geographical area, like Germany. You can only do it by traversing the hierarchy of locations. That would mean ideally fitting "at sea" into the same hierarchy as "North Atlantic Ocean" or "Tasman Sea". Ghouston ([[User talk:Ghouston|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 23:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


Sandy Hook pilotsEdit


officeholder for people who held the position


Close dicussionEdit

  • {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]]}}

Recyclable FAG entriesEdit

Funeral homesEdit

Mack Memorial Home, Central Avenue and Hutton Street, Jersey City aka Otto Mack Funeral Home


Military propertiesEdit

Incomplete botsEdit

  • Nobel prize mix and match
  • Newspaper ID mix and match for copyright data

Interesting WikidatiansEdit

  • User:Tagishsimon
  • User:Auntof6

Adoptive parentsEdit

There are currently 121 cases of Template:P with qualifier Template:P being used to model adoptive relationships. That seems to be the current way of marking them.


Property proposalsEdit

Subclass ofEdit

Second-order metaclass (Q24017465) for mayors of X County in New Jersey

Wikidata dynamic listsEdit

Inherently ambiguous birth datesEdit

I want to flag instances of humans that have an "inherently ambiguous birth date". Some people were born without birth certificates at home in rural poverty areas in the 1800s. For some people up to the 1600s records do not exist and we can only give the year they were born. Some people have given different years in different documents. I have found multiple people, especially celebrities, who keep making themselves younger as they age in their official documents. Unless these people that give multiple birthdates have a birth certificate online, they are one category of people that have an "inherently ambiguous birth date". I have been adding in hundreds of full birthdays where the year was only known, based on the WWI and WWI draft or passport applications for people in the USA. Sometimes the value is already in Wikipedia and Wikidata has not been updated. I run this: However, after searching and finding nothing, I want to create a field to let myself know a search has been done and nothing has been found, so I do not keep looking when I run the program again a month later. One day in the future when more records are online someone can search all the humans that have an "inherently ambiguous birth date" and look again. This would be a "Wikidata-specific criterion" Can someone suggest a scheme? Does anyone else see this as useful? --RAN (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Maybe add a qualifier of sourcing circumstances (P1480) = presumably (Q18122778) (or a new QID for 'ambiguous')? Thanks. User:Mike Peel (talk) 00:10, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
  • for this purpose, on Template:P and Template:P which did not exist when I checked, I use Template:P as qualifier. Could this help you ? --Hsarrazin ([[User talk:Hsarrazin|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 08:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Ban on synthetic fieldsEdit

Currently we ban the creation of a field containing a url if it can be synthesized from information from another field. It would be much better if Wikidata had a field called "Worldcat url" and "CIA World Fact Book url". For instance "Worldcat url" should be synthesized automatically from the LCCN_ID into a clickable url stored directly in Wikidata. We only get a link to Worldcat if that person has an entry in Wikipedia where it is synthesized on the fly from Wikidata. Some people use Wikidata directly as a source of information.

Copyright start dateEdit

Would there be any interest in having the date that copyright status begins as a field for newspapers and magazines. Currently you have to search here for the publication and it tells you the start date for copyrights (as best can be discerned to date). That information could be pulled into WikiCommons and WikiSource by a template with standardized wording. See for example: here for a hand-written example for the Asbury Park Press which did not file for renewal and The Jersey Jornal which did. Some publications had a more extensive copyright clearance search performed and gaps in renewals were found for individual issues, see Time magazine as an example. We would not be able to have a single date for Time magazine. --RAN ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 19:28, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

The template reading the Wikidata date would add this statement to the category for the articles in Commons and in Source:--RAN ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 02:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Articles published in the Jersey Journal are in the public domain prior to February 9, 1929. All articles starting on that date are currently under active copyright.

New SubclassesEdit

  • city halls of Bergen County, New Jersey
  • city halls of Hudson County, New Jersey
  • Category:City halls in New Jersey

Hall of FameEdit

  • inductee into the Hall of Fame

Things to automateEdit

Participants in the w:1915 Indianapolis 500 added to Property:P1344

Authorities that use WikidataEdit


Since English Wikipedia is removing links to Findagrave and the people removing the links refuse to migrate the data to Wikidata before deletion ... I wonder if we have a bot that finds the most probable matches and just needs a human eye to confirm or deny? Both and Familysearch have this function. We migrated over the Findagrave ID if it used a standard template in external links in Wikipedia but most articles did not use that template. Most articles used it as a reference for the place of burial, and those are the ones being deleted now. --RAN ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 18:21, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

That looks like it only ran for flagged "famous" people, mostly actors. I add politicians, and they are almost never famous at Findagrave and I have to search for them manually. Can the bot be adjusted, I would love to have that as a project. --RAN ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 05:51, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


Locational dopplegangersEdit

  • Template:Q
  • Chatham
  • Andover Borough / Township, Berlin Borough / Township, Boonton Town / Township, Bordentown City / Township, Burlington City / Township, Chatham Borough / Township, Chester Borough / Township , Clinton Town / Township, Egg Harbor City / Township, Freehold Borough / Township, Gloucester City / Township, Hopewell Borough / Township, Lebanon Borough / Township, Mendham Borough / Township --- Audubon / Audubon Park, Barnegat Light / Barnegat Township, Englewood / Englewood Cliffs, Haddon Township / Haddonfield. Haddon Heights, the Cape Mays and Wildwoods.
  • There are also counties that are also cities like Baltimore and Los Angeles. This can be confusing.

Lost at sea or died at seaEdit

To cluster people who were lost at sea in an airplane or boat. To cluster people who died aboard an airplane or boat but the body was recovered.

People with topographical namesEdit


Wikidata specific itemsEdit

Where to add proposalsEdit

Proposals yet to be madeEdit

DoneEdit Jewish Museum Berlin person ID

Proposals completedEdit

VIAF duplicatesEdit

Proposed projectsEdit

Wikicalendar, a new wiki project so that full dates in articles can link to information on that day. A cursor hover will show the full date, day of the week, and how many years and days ago the event took place. A click on the link will bring you to a list of events that occurred on that day. People who were born and who died. Wikipedia pages that contain this information on specific dates can be migrated. Wikipedia pages can choose to just have the cursor hover for information on that date or a full link to Wikicalender.


Spanish namesEdit

How to link to a person in Wiki universe to WikidataEdit

  • [[d:Q20656299]]


Find date of birthEdit




Extra permissionsEdit

Chat for questionsEdit

Purge cacheEdit

Property listsEdit


1918 flu pandemic deathsEdit

Interesting peopleEdit

Key: ^ = Wikipedia article, § = Commons category or gallery but no Wikipedia entry, * = needs a commons category created and a public domain document uploaded, 1 = degree of separation from a Wikipedia or Commons entry, ¶ = genealogics entry

More interesting peopleEdit


Reference booksEdit



New ideasEdit

  • Restrict choice in gender
  • Restrict choice in manner of death
  • Automate reciprocal links for human relationships (spouse, siblings, parent-child) use Findagrave as the model
  • Calculate field "age at death" if both date of birth and date of death are complete with no modifiers, calculate in years, months, and days.

Degrees of separationEdit

There is currently no restrictions on the number of degrees of separation that can be created, starting with a notable person with an article in Wikipedia or a category in Wikicommons. You can create an entry for a spouse, a sibling, a child, even if they do not have a Wikipedia or Commons entry themselves.

Test versionEdit


Dolly ZoomEdit